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Old 08-27-2006, 09:52 AM   #151
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How would I know when the battery has to be unplugged without having one of those LED indicators?
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Does the Orion packs need "break in" cycles before use?

I can't find the orion lipo faq, could you please post a link to it.
No battery needs to be "broken in". This applies to NiMH or Lipo.
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How would I know when the battery has to be unplugged without having one of those LED indicators?
When you car slows down. And the battery should remain unplugged when the vehicle is not being used.
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Old 08-27-2006, 01:33 PM   #154
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you can charge them even if they're half full right?
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Old 08-27-2006, 03:48 PM   #155
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you can charge them even if they're half full right?
Yes you should even store them at around 50% capacity. And they do not need to be discharged before charging to full capacity.
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Old 08-27-2006, 06:32 PM   #157
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Wow. Lipo's are so much less hastle than nicad and Nimh. Does storing at around 50% actually mean storing it at around 50%?
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No battery needs to be "broken in". This applies to NiMH or Lipo.
Thanks Rick, you should talk to this guy from Apogee: http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/s...=219459&page=3

Their instructions say EVERY LiPo have to be broken in before use...
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How do you break in a battery?
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Old 08-27-2006, 11:16 PM   #160
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Thanks Rick, you should talk to this guy from Apogee: http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/s...=219459&page=3

Their instructions say EVERY LiPo have to be broken in before use...
The battery you linked is LiMn. Maybe those are different?
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Is there any word on when we might see these hit the stores? The online shops are saying mid to late Sept., but I'm guessing it's going to be longer than that.
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The battery you linked is LiMn. Maybe those are different?
I thought the same first but Apogee gives these instructions for all of their packs and most of them are LiPo (Lithium Cobalt). I just wanted a second opinion from Rick... thanks.
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Is there any word on when we might see these hit the stores? The online shops are saying mid to late Sept., but I'm guessing it's going to be longer than that.
Mid to late September is still the expected time frame.

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I thought the same first but Apogee gives these instructions for all of their packs and most of them are LiPo (Lithium Cobalt). I just wanted a second opinion from Rick... thanks.
Breaking in batteries has always been done. In some cases, you may get slightly less performance from a battery the first cycle (and some batteries are best their first cycle).

But I don't believe this first cycle is bad enough that you must cycle the battery on the bench and waste a run in a vehicle.

But I would always follow the manufacturer's instructions. If Apogee says you should break in your batteries, I would simply to avoid any possible warranty issues down the road.
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Are there charts somewhere that show the voltage discharge curve of the Orion LiPo packs vs a quality NiMh pack? Perhaps something similar to the charts at the bottom of this page.

It's good to hear you guys are still aiming for mid-Sept. That's rapidly approaching. :-)
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Hi all, Rick,

so in a nutshell: LiPo's are better, lighter, less maintenance, more convenient, etc etc etc... which is all good - but where's the catch? I mean, my mom always told me, if it looks too good to be true then it probably is... not trying to be a smarta$$ here, just to understand whether I should ditch my NiMH and charger and invest into a complete new technology, or sit wait and relax for another little while and watch others be guinneapigs for this technology. For the moment it kinda looks like the brushless technology, fantastic on paper but still not really picking up after a couple of years of market availability...

What exactly am I missing?

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