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Old 07-06-2006, 07:16 PM   #61
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3.5R (3.5 turns) [rumored, not yet available] (wow, how fast is that? is this speed needed?)
4.5R (4.5 turns)
5.5R (5.5 turns)
6.5R (6.5 turns)
7.5R (7.5 turns)
5800 (8.5 turns)
4300 (10.5 turns)How much?
SS13.5 (13.5 turns) [available soon] How much?
Crawler 18.5 (18.5 turns) [available soon]How much?
and what site to buy them? thanks

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A new $200 brushed ESC is all good, but $200 for a motor and ESC is too much for brushless. A $40 27T mod motor that needs $5 a night in "maintenance" is just great, so they have 10 of them. A $70 motor that needs no maintenance ever needs to be cheaper.
so 200 is too expensive for a brushless system? the SS13.5 or Crawler 18.5 ?

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this new stock brushless motor seems to be the future of our sport!
so which one will be more universal? SS13.5 or Crawler 18.5. I want to get them as soon as possible if they are cheap (with esc right?)

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so I guess the size is the same as the silver can motor. need comfirm. thanks

and is it possible to cut the wires shorter? and solder them again? I don't like them hanging around. I can't make any shorter for the senors, right? but can i do it on the other ones?


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from tower hobbies
Novak Crawler Brushless System 18.5 costs 250
Novak GTB/Velociti Racing Brushless System 6.5 (or any faster ones) are cheaper.
but why?

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Old 07-06-2006, 07:44 PM   #62
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Missing the boat. It's the new technology- it's here and improving and your not going to stop it. The majority of R/C never hits the tracks anyway.How many years has Novak been working on this?The question was put to several other companies afew months ago about stocker brushless motors- no one took up the offer.
Look at the other electric hobbies that have mushroomed because of these motors.Why can't it do the same for this part of the R/C hobby.
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Old 07-06-2006, 08:07 PM   #63
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One guy even threatened to drop out of a race if I didn't immediately remove my brushless motor, even through its perfectly ROAR/IFMAR legal, and have been raced at big national events, like the Snowbirds, alongside brushed systems in their classes...

again more bad info! brushless anything was not legal at the snowbirds!

2006 Snowbird Motor Rules:
- Handouts for stock / 19 turn classes
- Open mod is brushed motors
(no brushless motors allowed)
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Old 07-06-2006, 08:35 PM   #64
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- Open mod is brushed motors
(no brushless motors allowed)
Maybe it's time to plan on racing an event other than the Snowbirds then.
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Old 07-06-2006, 08:51 PM   #65
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2006 rules who knows what 2007 will bring?
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Old 07-06-2006, 08:56 PM   #66
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Since "stock" racing is pretty much here to stay and probably the most popular class to run at National and club races I like the idea of thie Novak motor

If the price is right I will buy one and run it at regular weekly races in the stock class. At the local level I can't imagine why a track owner would discourage people from using it.

If it brings new people into the hobby that can only be better.
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again more bad info! brushless anything was not legal at the snowbirds!

2006 Snowbird Motor Rules:
- Handouts for stock / 19 turn classes
- Open mod is brushed motors
(no brushless motors allowed)
Sponsored by Trinity,
scared of racing against brushless & getting beat....
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Old 07-06-2006, 09:02 PM   #68
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Anthony,

This is exactly how things get changed... People run them locally, the class builds.,... and rules change.....
Our Florida State Series ( www.fseara.org) is trying to put together a brushless stock class for next year... We will be discussing this at our next race meeting. Our Regional Director asked three big motor companies for a stock equivilent motor, and Novak was the only to respond.

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Since "stock" racing is pretty much here to stay and probably the most popular class to run at National and club races I like the idea of thie Novak motor

If the price is right I will buy one and run it at regular weekly races in the stock class. At the local level I can't imagine why a track owner would discourage people from using it.

If it brings new people into the hobby that can only be better.
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Old 07-06-2006, 09:03 PM   #69
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It's too bad that companies are taking a stand on this and trying to stifle technology to protect their business model. I understand they must make a lot of money on motors, so I guess it's a good business move from their perspective. It also makes me hope they fail, or change their mind. The only way I can do that is to boycott the products of companies trying to hold back the consumers and the hobby to protect their interests. That's called "evil."
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the rules will change for sure, if there are more people use brushless

could someone answer my questions, please? thanks
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For stock racing, it looks like the 13.5 is going to be the way to go when it's available. Combined with the GTB, it should be a nice combination. Currently, there isn't a motor that's exactly in line with a 19T. The 4300 is slower and the 5800 is faster. Hopefully Novak will come up with a 9.5 or something that's a better match for 19T.

You can't shorter the sensor wires (that's the bundle of thin silicon wires) but the three power wires can be shortened and replaced just like any other ESC.
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For stock racing, it looks like the 13.5 is going to be the way to go when it's available. Combined with the GTB, it should be a nice combination. Currently, there isn't a motor that's exactly in line with a 19T. The 4300 is slower and the 5800 is faster. Hopefully Novak will come up with a 9.5 or something that's a better match for 19T.

You can't shorter the sensor wires (that's the bundle of thin silicon wires) but the three power wires can be shortened and replaced just like any other ESC.
thanks, and the ss13.5 has the 27T speed (stock?)? so what kind of race I can enter? 13.5 turns and 27 turns?
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thanks, and the ss13.5 has the 27T speed (stock?)? so what kind of race I can enter? 13.5 turns and 27 turns?
According to Novak's site, the 13.5T is supposed to perform very much like a regular stock motor.

I think the hope is that people will be allowed to race them with regular brushed stock motors, but right now, that's going to depend on the race director at your club. A lot of clubs are resistant to mixing brushed and brushless, but hopefully they change their minds once this thing catches on.

Since this is brand new, and not released yet, I'm guessing if you asked them today, they would say "no" since none of the current brushless motors are close enough to be fair in stock, and most race directors probably aren't staying on top of the very latest developments in the brushless market. I suspect, by the end of the year, they'll all be very aware of it.

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um... I get it now.
hopefully, it will be cheap
(offtopic: I am also thinking to drift with it, so is it fast enough?)
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YES!

finely!!

a brushless motor for us drifters!

b/c the 4800 was still to much
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