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Old 08-03-2006, 07:03 PM   #211
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i don't quite understand the pricing on the 13.5. towerhobbies has the 10.5 at 58 bucks and the 8.3 at 75 bucks, yet the 13.5 is at 77 bucks. i thought the 13.5 was going to be the cheapest of them, but that doesn't seem so. are they planning on lowering the price later on to match the price trend of the other motors, or is it gonna be the more expensive SS forever?
The 13.5 has the upgraded endbell and rotor that the 4300 and 5800 lack, which is a $30 upgrade.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXLHC4&P=7
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Old 08-03-2006, 07:30 PM   #212
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Did they give a reason for turning the 13.5 down?
Just a cop-out reply...

Brushless=modified, end of story.

as far as the novak documentation goes the 13.5 is supposed to directly compete with 27t brushed, and to my thinking they should be allowed to run together.

I dont want to run against the mod guys, I just dont have the dollars. I am very happy with 'stock speeds' as it means that the drive train components dont wear as fast, and thing are less likely to break in a crash... also our track doenst even run mod, only 540, stock and 19t.
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Old 08-03-2006, 07:58 PM   #213
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The 13.5 has the upgraded endbell and rotor that the 4300 and 5800 lack, which is a $30 upgrade.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXLHC4&P=7
mm darn, i was hoping that the 13.5 would be a cheap brushless alternative, though i guess what really takes the cash is the esc.
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Old 08-03-2006, 10:57 PM   #214
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Brushless is less expensive in the long run. It will save you time and money.
Here's an analogy: It's like cheap paper poker cards vs. Kem plastic cards. Sure, Kem cards will cost you $20 for 2 decks initially, but research has shown that over time Kem cards cost less than the cheap paper cards. A deck of Kem cards are durable, washable, and always lay flat.

So, if the better item costs less in the long run, you might as well start off with it and enjoy them from the beginning.
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Old 08-03-2006, 11:07 PM   #215
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I totally agree, better performance, longer runtimes, less maintenance, and less cost...

i dont see any drawbacks

I'm, just P-O'd that Im not allowed to use it. as I said I might just have to find somewhere else to race...

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Old 08-03-2006, 11:20 PM   #216
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Has anyone used the Neo-One 1 Star? it is a 13T motor. I suppose it would be similar to the 13.5 in performance.

anyone with words of wisdom to share...
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Has anyone used the Neo-One 1 Star? it is a 13T motor. I suppose it would be similar to the 13.5 in performance.

anyone with words of wisdom to share...
The 1 Star is an 8.5 turn motor, just like the Novak 5800. I believe they're saying its performance is comparable to a 13T brushed motor.
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Old 08-04-2006, 08:44 AM   #218
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Has anyone used the Neo-One 1 Star? it is a 13T motor. I suppose it would be similar to the 13.5 in performance.

anyone with words of wisdom to share...
I been using a 1 star for a few months now ...

Its about the smoothest, easy driving motor you can buy...

Even though I have a 3 star & the 2 star , my 1 star get the best overall times & best lap time`s too ...

Don`t hesitate considering buying that 1 Star !
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does anyone know when ROAR will approve this motor for ROAR rules stock racing?
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My opinion is that we don't have enough experience with these motors to make rules right now. ROAR could whip up a set of rules and they could be completely wrong and damaging to the hobby. There is just too much we don't know right now.

For example:

Is 13.5BL the right wind?
How does it compare to 27T in Sedan, Oval, 1/12th and Off Road?
Should we used bonded or sintered magnets?
Is any other motor manufacturer will to makes a 13.5?
Should we control prices like on 27T motors?

The best course of action is to let racers run these motors at the club level and get them figured out. By this time next year we will be better prepared to write rules.

This goes for a BL 19T equivalent too.
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But lots of clubs follow ROAR regulations
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But lots of clubs follow ROAR regulations
Most tracks follow the spirit of the ROAR rules and run more relaxed club races. Generally if the racers want a class and there are 5 or more guys that want to run in it they get thier own class.

If you want to run mixed 27T BR and 13.5BL the local racers should vote on it and if they agree to do it the track will let them. This part is critcal. For there to be a new rule there has to be proof that guys want to do this nationwide.

If the track says no to racer voted changes in local rules you need to tell them to contact ROAR. ROAR encourages this sort of grassroots experimentation.
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ok that sounds good cuz I want to run BL stock at my club
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I saw on tower that the BL motor is now in stock..

not wanting to buy everything seperately...
will motor be available as a system? BL & ESC?
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I saw on tower that the BL motor is now in stock..

not wanting to buy everything seperately...
will motor be available as a system? BL & ESC?
I tried to order a motor yesterday and it came up B/O...said it was in stock until I tried ot pay for it...even went back and tried the whole thing again.

Oh well, guess I have to wait a while longer.
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