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Old 01-17-2003, 12:49 PM   #1
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I'm gettin into electric and i want the best so which is it. Also what should i look for in a battery charger (whats the best) and who makes the best batteries and what batteries do i need to race competively on pro level. Also what motor. ANy websites?
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Carpet or Asphalt?

Foam or Rubber?

Stock or Mod?

Experience or No Experience?

If you don't know what you are doing then get the XXX-S because you are going to break parts and you can get parts a lot eaiser for the XXX-S. If you know what you are doing and don't think that you will break that much and you know how to setup a car then get the X-Ray EV0-2 with the C HUbs.
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Mike has a good point, the age old advice, get something you can get parts for.

Myself, I like Schumacher kits, as they are very durable and my local shop stocks all the parts. As far as batteries, check out Pro-Match, Jeff sells a very high quality product and stands behind them. When shopping for a charger price is really what will drive your purchase.
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If you don't know what you are doing then get the XXX-S because you are going to break parts and you can get parts a lot eaiser for the XXX-S. If you know what you are doing and don't think that you will break that much and you know how to setup a car then get the X-Ray EV0-2 with the C HUbs.
If you want a car which you can get bit for easily then XXX-S, if you want a car which won't break then it has to be the Xray!!!
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I'm gettin into electric and i want the best so which is it. Also what should i look for in a battery charger (whats the best) and who makes the best batteries and what batteries do i need to race competively on pro level. Also what motor. ANy websites?
My vote is the Xray because you can completely tune the car without purchasing extra items such as rear toe-in blocks. The Xray is good to go right out of the box. If you are getting into electric, that tells me that you probably have had some experience, maybe in nitro, or another form of racing so you probably have some driving skills. The TC3 and XXXS are excellent cars to start with and with lots of part support. The Xray is for the driver who wants the luxury and ease of tuning without buying extras.
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Old 01-17-2003, 05:46 PM   #6
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I have nitro mtx-2. I'm past the newbie thing. Setting a car up is second nature. I was wondering also about balancing a car where do you get those balance thingies and weights. My LHS only has offroad nitro and electric nothing serious so all my purchases are online. I'll probably be racing indoor carpet. So whats the best charger/discharger. So basically i'm just new to electric and not 1/10 sedans. Instead of hunting down things on the internet i wanted to hear from your experience gurus basically "whtas the best of everything"
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RCinfinity- you must be a little behind, the XXX-S G+ has all the tuning parts is the box, no extras to buy. For me the desicion is quite simple I prefer c-hub cars over pivot balls...... and the X-Ray with the C conversion doesn't count because I can buy 2 Losi G+'s for the price of an evo2 w/c-hubs.......
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RCinfinity- you must be a little behind, the XXX-S G+ has all the tuning parts is the box, no extras to buy. For me the desicion is quite simple I prefer c-hub cars over pivot balls...... and the X-Ray with the C conversion doesn't count because I can buy 2 Losi G+'s for the price of an evo2 w/c-hubs.......
Sorry for butting in guys but Impactplayr, I was just wondering if you could explain why you prefer c-hub cars over pivot balls.
It is just to help me with my eternal quest for knowledge and I was interested to hear your point of view.

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Old 01-18-2003, 06:24 AM   #9
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Ease of set-up, When you bolt up all the pieces you know you have 4 deg. of Caaster, 2 deg. of kick-up, and 3 deg. of rear toe..... I know no matter what I do that my car is 188mm wide..... and if I want the full 190mm I add a 1mm shim behind each wheel. All I have to set is ride heght, droop, chamber, and front toe......

And after a heat, I know I tapped afew boards, I chech for broken parts, binding suspension, ride height, droop,chamber, and front toe........ hey I'm ready for the main........ and I can use a simple RPM guage for quick between heat checks.......

You could get away with the same for pivot ball cars, however you will never be 100% sure before you hit the track agian........

Also IMHO infinately adjustanble can mean an infinate pain in the ass!!!!!
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I have two Xrays. A T1 with C Hubs and an EVO 2 with pivot balls.

I check the same things on both of them. Camber and front toe.

I never had a drastical change in angles due to a crash and I assure I had plenty of them.

The rear toe is something I check once in a while. I prefer pivot balls to C Hubs because you can just change a clip to see what the new caster setting can do for me.

I never had the time or the patience to change the complete arrangement when I'm running C Hubs. Too much hassle.

With the Pivot balls ( and I also have a Mugen MTX 2) is just a matter of a minute to change it.

The resistance of the Xray is more than enough even for the worst crashes, but I had a beautiful graphite Yokomo that destroyed arms after arms with just minor side crashes. Graphite is light but it has some problems.

Did I say that I need to add weight to put both my Xrays on the minimal limit?

It's a sturdy car, the extras that you need maybe the front one way and nothing else. In this particular the car is on par with the Losi.

Don't know about the price there coz in my country the Losi is more expensive.

If I were in the US I would probably go for the Losi because I could get all the parts I needed very fast.
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I'm gettin into electric and i want the best so which is it. Also what should i look for in a battery charger (whats the best) and who makes the best batteries and what batteries do i need to race competively on pro level. Also what motor. ANy websites?
Sorry to burst your bubble but simply buying the best does not take you into the "Pro" Level of competition...the fact you ask those questions indicates the best thing for you is to first learn to drive. For that a Tamiya TL01 will be great...try that first!

Just my 2 cents!
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Hey, hey hey!!! I can't drive on the level of a pro.. however I want all my equiptmdnt to be pro level.... why???? Because I can!!! there's no need to run anyone into the ground, if you can't add something constructive don't add anything at all......... JMHO
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This kid has already posted 3 thread essentially asking the same questions.....you are all taking the bait!
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PS- using a TL01 to learn to drive is actually a very constructive comment!
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Thanks for your explanation on Pivot Ball Vs C-Hub Impactplayr. I never really had thought about the pros and cons before. It makes good sense. I have found a good set of calipers does make setting up pivot balls accurately a lot easier.

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