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Old 01-19-2003, 12:40 AM   #16
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I probably would consider the EVOIII and buy spare parts in advance. Tamiya has done a good job on making their best sedans good quality. If I race a car with no parts support I make sure I carry the common broken items in my box. Right now with the EVOIII it seems the 1-way gear is culprit from what I have read.

My experience with a Losi XXXs has been miserable at best. The plastic breaks easy and the drive train is not reliable. I was disappointed and glad that a friend bought it and not me. I think he later traded it in for a TC3.

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Old 01-19-2003, 09:44 AM   #17
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what problems have you had with the drive train???
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Old 01-19-2003, 09:47 AM   #18
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who said anything about losi being faster?
no one said anything about it being faster....just and ugly car going by you....
I'm glad you found the humor in my post. Some people are too up tight on here.
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Old 01-19-2003, 12:25 PM   #19
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For what it's worth, I've never understood how people keep breaking the XXX-S.

I've had my XXX-S since the week it first came out, and raced it heavily ever since, including racing it at some big events. I believe I can count the number of arms, carriers and suspension parts that I've broken on one hand.

Not only that, I race on some pretty unforgiving tracks, and with a lot of traffic. The car is certainly getting banged around, but it just survives.

I have no experience with the Evo 3, though, so I can't make a fair comparison. I am going to order an Evo 3 though in the next few days, so I have something to run in the next TCS race...
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Old 01-19-2003, 01:35 PM   #20
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do you race modified or stock futureal they can handle crashes in stock but there alway's breaking in mod
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Old 01-19-2003, 05:05 PM   #21
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This particular race would be mod, I believe. I'll have to check the TCS rules. I race either.

I think the TCS limits the stock classes to a spec chasses (TL01 maybe?) and if you want to race an Evo or a 414 series car, you need to race in the open (mod) class.

I have heard of problems with the one-way; I am hoping that those will be solved, or there will be a way to run the car with full-time 4WD. Jun's car at the US TC champs race was dialed.
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Old 01-19-2003, 07:34 PM   #22
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The TCS rules limit the GT-2 stock class to the non carbon plate chassis. If you have a 414 or TB Evo series car you have to race in GT-1 Super Touring. (Mod)
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Old 01-20-2003, 11:46 AM   #23
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I am going to have to go with Futureal on this one...

The XXX-S doesn't break more or less easily than any other TC on the market. The parts included in the kits are stiff. When using a stiff material, durability is sacrificed. The big problem parts on the XXXS have been redesigned - such as the caster blocks and arms - both of which have thicker material in the areas which used to break... this is the same thing that AE did with the TC3.

Another point noone has touched on is the fact that the Losi almost never comes off the track tweaked... as can be the case with double plate cars and cars such as the TC3.

I have run the AE, the Yokomo, and now the Losi. The Yokomo was by far the most difficult car to break, the AE was the easiest, and the Losi falls somewhere in the middle.



Regarding which car to pick up.... in the simplest form - this was answered in the first couple of replies.... If you do break - are there parts available or do you have to carry a second kit with you at all times??? The Losi will have the better parts support of the two hands down

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Old 01-20-2003, 04:44 PM   #24
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Caprises: Just follow ur heart, TAMIYA,TAMIYA,TAMIYA!!!
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Old 01-21-2003, 05:32 AM   #25
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I got XXX-S Personally. With all the Upgrade.
It's heavy duty btw. It Can survive Crashes.
I used to race with HPI Pro3 but things keep on breaking and loosen out.
After that I bought that PORN Car and a few upgrade. Wosh ! i felt that it is faster than my pro 3 is light btw.
And one more thing about Pro 3 Last weekend i saw people race.
And guess what Pro 3 had it's rear arm broken after one huge crash with 5 car's.
(HERE IN MY PLACE WE RACE LIKE DRUNKEN PEOPLE).
And the Owner of the car quit away from that race... cuz is the 3rd time he looses his arm.(HARA).

My friends losi btw is flying around like bird and the CAR STILL IN PERFECT condition.
But i had to AdmiT that Tamiya/X-Ray/TC3 is a heavy duty car too.
My choice ... is stay away with HPI get the other... MAK sure Spare Parts is important.
One thing about Losi PORN CAR .. IS AN UGLY FAST CAR!
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Old 01-21-2003, 08:07 AM   #26
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I got XXX-S Personally. With all the Upgrade.
It's heavy duty btw. It Can survive Crashes.
I used to race with HPI Pro3 but things keep on breaking and loosen out.
After that I bought that PORN Car and a few upgrade. Wosh ! i felt that it is faster than my pro 3 is light btw.
And one more thing about Pro 3 Last weekend i saw people race.
And guess what Pro 3 had it's rear arm broken after one huge crash with 5 car's.
(HERE IN MY PLACE WE RACE LIKE DRUNKEN PEOPLE).
And the Owner of the car quit away from that race... cuz is the 3rd time he looses his arm.(HARA).

My friends losi btw is flying around like bird and the CAR STILL IN PERFECT condition.
But i had to AdmiT that Tamiya/X-Ray/TC3 is a heavy duty car too.
My choice ... is stay away with HPI get the other... MAK sure Spare Parts is important.
One thing about Losi PORN CAR .. IS AN UGLY FAST CAR!
doesnt just drive like drunk.talks like that too!!
but pls just joking.
losi is fast..but just as fast as its driver.
sometimes ugliness is a strong factor.
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TC3? Durable? You really are drunk.. lol.. I had a TC3, and broke parts without even crashing.. lol.. I know you are worried about parts.. But with a Tamiya, why??? heheh.. You knwo your Evo3, like any other Tamiya is built like a TANK! You don't need that many parts to order in the first place. The losi may not be a very pretty car, but it seems effective.. But I still don't think it's as durable as an Evo3. I used to have the TB Evolution2. I raced in the rookie class (otherwise known as Destruction Derby RC) and out of a field of 11, 4 was left by the end of the race. After an 8 car pileup in the start, innumerable crashes, a double barrel roll into the brick wall and a full speed zero right on target crash into the steel post, my car finished in first and besides one hella tattered up body nearly chopped all the way in half, the RC was still in perfect shape. The only problem with the Evo 3 is the front gearbox. Don't tighten it too much, and use blue CA glue. Problem fixed. Plus, you get like spare gears in the kit anyways. Losi is a good car.. don't get me wrong.. But it just looks like a tyco car to me.. No offense, but it's just not that appealing to me. heheh
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TC3? I raced in the rookie class (otherwise known as Destruction Derby RC) and out of a field of 11, 4 was left by the end of the race. After an 8 car pileup in the start, innumerable crashes, a double barrel roll into the brick wall and a full speed zero right on target crash into the steel post, my car finished in first and besides one hella tattered up body nearly chopped all the way in half, the RC was still in perfect shape.


Losi is a good car.. don't get me wrong.. But it just looks like a tyco car to me.. No offense, but it's just not that appealing to me. heheh
what kinda race is that?doesnt sound like a race ..more like wrestling or something.last one standing wins....
And 'bout Losi:u are right on......
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can't go wrong with either car...comes down to which parts are available near you.

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