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Old 06-14-2006, 03:52 AM   #1
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Ive been reading alot lately that rubber tc tires seem to lose performance as you run them.. i see alot of guys selling one-2 run tires.. thats insane..
I thiunk it is time for tire companies to start making a better tire.. In oval racing we use rubber capped tires.. there made from the same rubber real nascar tires are made.. They last for months.. they actually get faster the more you run them.. i would say the last 20 or so runs the tires are super fast.. they seem to be the fastest when the belt starts to show..

Why cant a tc tire be made like this?? Im guessing it has alot to do with the instert..or lack there off.. with the oval tires the foam on the inside is tight to the tire.. we have diff colors for diff bites.. the tire is glued to the foam as well.. seems to me a tire being shot after one run is silly.. especially when new people have to come up with 40 bucks every two weeks for skins..

I ran my cap tires on a high banked 365 foot runlin4e asphalt track for over 3 months. and they were used tires from 04.. the klast few runs were about 3-5 seconds faster then the first runs..

I see BSR makes a touring car caped tire.. I have never seen anyone try them on outdoor tracks tho.. Has anyone tried them?? if so how were they...
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Problem is though most events people enter they have a controled tyre and it is usely the tyres u are on about the ones that dont last! but I cant see them using a caped tyre for a controled tyre

I have run some v-tecs from don valley last year and I still use them at club level
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Simple solution- Foam.
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Burbs do you race?
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Duhhh only for 18 years Mr. crain..Im an oval racer.. I use to do Tc at trackside.. ohh about 5 years ago.... ive been on break this summer, bought a house.. and im most likley going to do some tc in the fall..
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we have a issue over here in the uk
about how much we have to pay for preglued wheels/tyre`s 25.00 set
nealy all are 1-3 run then get new set
so for the nats 2 set`s on the day 50.00

no discount from the tyre makers (tight wads) you would of thought they would make a deal with the brca for getting them in the nat`s
also every single maker is 25.00
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what are the chances of that happening all the prices the same
it` been a real expensive year this time round (tyre`s only)

sorex are 1 run wonders weather it be 28/32 or 36`s

i reckon they all sit round a table to pat each other on the back
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I think that as ROAR rules stand now for TC racing, capped rubber tires are not legal for sanctioned racing...
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im not familiar with Capped tires, they sound interesting. What are they? how do they differ from the normal tires?
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im not familiar with Capped tires, they sound interesting. What are they? how do they differ from the normal tires?
look here
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yeah, its just that i havent seen them in person. I gather that they are better from the description, but the descption only details how its better and not much else. what process do they use? what does "cap" mean? those questions arent answered by the website
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yeah, its just that i havent seen them in person. I gather that they are better from the description, but the descption only details how its better and not much else. what process do they use? what does "cap" mean? those questions arent answered by the website
give John a call , he will answer any questions that you have.
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Are those Capped touring tires 24mm or 26mm?
I wouldn't mind trying to introduce it for club racing if it really last as long as the original post is accurate and leave the big tire expenses for the big races.

Does anybody know the touring set price, performance, and runs before the
performance drops off?
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Ive been reading alot lately that rubber tc tires seem to lose performance as you run them.. i see alot of guys selling one-2 run tires.. thats insane..
I thiunk it is time for tire companies to start making a better tire.. In oval racing we use rubber capped tires.. there made from the same rubber real nascar tires are made.. They last for months.. they actually get faster the more you run them.. i would say the last 20 or so runs the tires are super fast.. they seem to be the fastest when the belt starts to show..

Why cant a tc tire be made like this?? Im guessing it has alot to do with the instert..or lack there off.. with the oval tires the foam on the inside is tight to the tire.. we have diff colors for diff bites.. the tire is glued to the foam as well.. seems to me a tire being shot after one run is silly.. especially when new people have to come up with 40 bucks every two weeks for skins..

I ran my cap tires on a high banked 365 foot runlin4e asphalt track for over 3 months. and they were used tires from 04.. the klast few runs were about 3-5 seconds faster then the first runs..

I see BSR makes a touring car caped tire.. I have never seen anyone try them on outdoor tracks tho.. Has anyone tried them?? if so how were they...
Not sure where you run caps at for months and are fast with them but I ran caps many of times and they are fast for 1 to 2 runs!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ran pan cars since they came out on oval and never had caps last more than 2 to 3 runs before they fell a 1/10th or 2 per run. The tire thing really depends on how fast you want to be. I normally only run good tires at bigger type races and run used tires at club races. My tires from big races have 1 run on them and then I use the one run tires at all my normal club racing. This saves me money in the long run as most of the guys in are area don't put on new tires at the club level unless the ones they have are really getting bad.
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Caps are illegal for ROAR, I know that there was a Pro Line or Jaco cap a few years ago, but it didn't take off.
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Simple solution- Foam.

So simple I cant believe its not accepted.

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