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Old 05-19-2006, 08:04 AM   #1
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I know that JR and KO are essentially the same company or whatever. I am looking for a new radio this summer and originally was going to get the Helios. My LHS has a Z1 in though and it looks basically the same except for the synthesizing. I have an XS3 now but am ultimately moving to Spektrum.

Is there any real difference between the 2 radios?
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I know that JR and KO are essentially the same company or whatever. I am looking for a new radio this summer and originally was going to get the Helios. My LHS has a Z1 in though and it looks basically the same except for the synthesizing. I have an XS3 now but am ultimately moving to Spektrum.

Is there any real difference between the 2 radios?
If you are going to Spektrum, get the Helios, you can replace the radio module with a Spektrum module. I do not believe you can change the radio module in the JR Z1. Other than that feature I believe they are very comparable radios.
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You can use a Spektrum System with a Z-1

http://www.spektrumrc.com/Products/D...ProdID=SPM1003

http://www.spektrumrc.com/Products/D...ProdID=SPM1013
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They are they same radio's. If you are going to strictly spektrum the Ko is the way to go... but you already have JR reciever(s) in your cars that will not work with the KO at all. So If you go JR then you will have extra recievers that will work if the spektrum doesn't.
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The nice thing about the Helios is they offer a TX only version for around $200. That way you don't pay a lot of money for the tx module and receivers. Then buy the Spektrum system for $130 and away you go. Don't forget to get the drop down for the helios, well worth the money!
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They are they same radio's. If you are going to strictly spektrum the Ko is the way to go... but you already have JR reciever(s) in your cars that will not work with the KO at all. So If you go JR then you will have extra recievers that will work if the spektrum doesn't.

Good point about using my existing receivers as backups. I was originally planning on selling the XS3 and all the receivers but since I have 4 receivers I could just keep one just in case.


Thanks to everyone for the help, will probably just go JR
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The nice thing about the Helios is they offer a TX only version for around $200. That way you don't pay a lot of money for the tx module and receivers. Then buy the Spektrum system for $130 and away you go. Don't forget to get the drop down for the helios, well worth the money!

Crap, another good point thats making me thing again lol.

Doesnt look like used XS3s are really selling anyway. Transmitter only sounds good then the whole XS3 for backup if ever needed.
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You will take a bath on the X3s, just keep it as a spare and get the Helios.
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The nice thing about the Helios is they offer a TX only version for around $200. That way you don't pay a lot of money for the tx module and receivers. Then buy the Spektrum system for $130 and away you go. Don't forget to get the drop down for the helios, well worth the money!

Thats what I did! I got it from KO Propo Direct for $179.00. Can't beat that deal...

http://www.shopatron.com/product/pro...0.1053.0.0.0.0
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Thats what I did! I got it from KO Propo Direct for $179.00. Can't beat that deal...

http://www.shopatron.com/product/pro...0.1053.0.0.0.0
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Thanks, I was just looking at Stormer and saw where it was 199.99 there. I know its only 20 dollars but 179 sounds better when I am having to convince the wife lol.
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JR and KO are not the same company, they simply work together from time to time. One other key feature about the Z-1 is the 3-year warantee which no other manufacturer comes close to. Also, and you've mentioned you have an XS3, is the fact that you have receivers you can use NOW. So if you can't spend the money to do both a new radio and the Spektrum Modules and receivers, you can bide your time until you can.
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I know that JR and KO are essentially the same company or whatever. I am looking for a new radio this summer and originally was going to get the Helios. My LHS has a Z1 in though and it looks basically the same except for the synthesizing. I have an XS3 now but am ultimately moving to Spektrum.

Is there any real difference between the 2 radios?
I'm in the same boat as you, so this was good to see what others are saying about this topic... I really want to get to DSM, I'm also interested in the telemetry and lap counter, so I can tell which lines are off and which lines are better, since I'm not an expert, I find getting the lap times each lap when using VRC very helpful. I quickly find out which corners are key and which you can some blow a bit...
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JR and KO are not the same company, they simply work together from time to time. One other key feature about the Z-1 is the 3-year warantee which no other manufacturer comes close to. Also, and you've mentioned you have an XS3, is the fact that you have receivers you can use NOW. So if you can't spend the money to do both a new radio and the Spektrum Modules and receivers, you can bide your time until you can.
The Nomadio Sensor has a 3yr Warranty - and their support kicks @ss!


But then, I sent two bad Z590M servos to JR for service, and they send me back 2 brand-spanking new ones in less than 10 days time.

That's nothing to scoff at, either.
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I bought the Z-1 over the Helios because I am using the synth set-up while I have been waiting on the DSM Pro stuff to become availible. Either will be a very good choice.

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You know what?

Nomadio, KO, JR, Spektrum, Futaba, Airtronics, you really can't go too wrong with the high-end radios of today. It just comes down to a personal preference, be it looks, comfort, maybe a certain feature.

Personally, I think it would help people, if LHS' had a car (stock RTR would be fine) setup with a universal Rx, like a Novak Xxtra, and had some radios to try.
I know it costs money, but damn - it's a lot of money to spend, to go home and install it, get it set up, and then realize you can't stand the reach for the trigger, or the balance of the Tx, or it's too heavy, or...

I know Nomadio has a deler demo program (I think $250 for a dealer to buy a not-for-resale unit). I wonder if the other makers have a similar program?

I REALLY think the dealers who have a track should be doing this
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