Wheelbase`s (Length)
 

looking for length of wheel base from centre of front wheel axel to centre rear one
from it`s shortest to it`s longest
yoke SD 260mm-268mm
evo4 tamiya 256mm-264mm
Xray T1r 251mm-260mm
xray EVO 4 251mm-260mm

hot bodies, pro 4 , yoke BD , T2 ,05 ,JRXS ,415 i`m after

Tamiya 415MSX
253mm-261mm

What you need this info for???
Just curious :)

since my race mates (not many left now :rolleyes: ) have been banging heads about certain cars go better indoors then out & vice a versa
just got me thinking in my spare time & the fact the yoke SD on it`s shortest setting is only the middle setting on the cyclone, T2 is also short

we were using droop,oils,shock angles, roll bars ,roll centre we were just going around in circles

then wheel base pop into my mind into why the belt cars were canning the shaft cars indoors
cyclone very short

also would like `our` East conversion car to go lot better indoors

Xray T2 255mm -260mm

We are running the Tamiya 258mm inndoors and 257mm outdoors, so not much difference actually.....

It is when the Yokomo SD is about 265mm :eek: , I think that is what 'Mr Jolly' is running from his reading his post.

HPI Pro4 and HB Cyclone wheelbase are the same. 256mm-259mm

:nod: :tire:

Why you not after the TC4 I feel left out :(

the SD was around 265mm
the other night went down to 261mm 3+1 on front 2+2 on back
then the other night went 4+0 front ,1+3 rear tons better just rotated that much faster & safer
when you see the cyclone wheelbase & see how quick it goes on carpet with rubbers , not suprised now with the short wheel base it uses

be intresting for the BD not that good indoors but outdoors it fly`s
(this is for general racers at club ,not the one off fancy pant`s driver that can make anything go fast)

ALSO TC3/4
didn`t think any one is using them

I cant find a ruler. :rolleyes:

use your `john thomas` :blush: short enough according to rumours

BRCA rules state a minimum wheelbase of 250mm and a maximum of 270.

Should be pretty simple for AEAST to lay up a short wheelbase SD chassis combined with a custom short propshaft if you want to create an indoor killer.

Perhaps combined with a "short" shell like the Protoform Xsara.

shortest the SD will go is 260mm
so with the 415,cyclones ,T2 running around 257mm
no wonder they are faster on our tight tracks indoor or out

Guess you have some dremmeling to do then :sneaky:

don`t get tweaks with our chassis & it could be a boat aswell

not true ;) . I can think of 6 people at our club (average turnout of 20-25) using the TC4 and not all close friends.

I was thinking about some dremmeling of the suspension arms to make the wheelbase shorter....

you must have all the TC3/4 owners there then :D
just joshing

i`m not doing that (not that serious about it

how about the narrow wishbones that yokomo has just released
think the cyclone has a narrow track aswell

i will check tomorow but i think the cyclone has a track width of 185mm, and a standard BD has 189mm, as for the worlds wishbones it looks like they have moved the hinge pin mount about 2mm to get about 185mm front track width but with no way of reducing the rear.

I guess to find real variants with the track and the wheelbase we could measure diagonals be interesting to see how much each car is different.

T2 front track adjustable from 183-186mm, rear adjustable 186 -189mm. Can also add further adjustment by 1mm offset hex's.

is this why the newer cars are/seam faster on tracks nowaday`s
being on shorter wheel bases
415 runs around 257mm this is a whole 3mm shorter then what the SD can get (shortest this can get is 260mm), std setup is with 2mm spacers either side of wishbone is 264mm so this is whole different planet

i.a.s hurry up & measure the tc3/4 jobby

Short wheelbase's aren't really new to xray, original T1 could run between 252 and 261 mm. I just think the others are catching on to the small tricks that they used to pass by more quickly now.

Here it goes

255mm - 262mm
But im using losi rear hubs which may change the length


I run the car at 257mm
That the Ft tc4

surely shorter wheelbase will make the car unstable and twitchy?
manufacturers must set the sheelbase to the optimum setting for its weight distribution etc.
little changes in wheelbase makes a big difference so dont go too mad hehehe

A friend of mine and I were having this conversation last week. He has built a Yokomo SD and a Schumacher both for foam on carpet. Both are very fast, even in the hands of different drivers. His conclusion is that cars should be around 260mm, with the ability to move 2-3mm shorter or longer.

A Shorter wheelbase makes the car more responsive, better for tight, twisty tracks while the longer one is faster on the long sweepers without many quick change of direction

I remember racing my SD in oh... 2004 outdoor season. I was scratching my head as to how these other cars were goin thru corners soo much faster (better rotation). I ended up shortening my wheelbase all the way down and it did the trick. So I can understand what's goin on here. I notice alot of the japanese market cars are/were designed for long wheelbase. Also reminds me when I think Tosolini drove for Yokomo and he shortened/ground down his arms for shorter wheelbase on carpet/foams. Hmmm interesting that you bring this up...

i wondered if it was `trends` at the time ,like a few years back it was `long` wheelbase & now it is `short` wheelbase

with a lot of new cars going even faster now then before i wondered `why` they are much faster
car design is still the same layout ,2 belts,motor in the back (ish) battery`s down the side , shocks still designed the same way , stock motors been this way for years ,tyre compound`s haven`t changed a great deal

with all these shock angle`s ,springs ,roll centre`s ,roll bars & wot not & all along it was the wheel base adjustment that changed the car
except X-ray they have had short wheelbase from the word go on there T1r
251mm-260mm

what`s the JRXS

Quick one.....On the Cyclone,you can shorten the wheelbase by moving the rear arms forward at the mounts,or you can move the hubs forward on the arms.Has anyone tried a comparison between the 2?Any ideas on the possible differences/or not? Tried it myself and I'm not sure of the differences,if any.The track was cold and the foams get real gummy(ozite on concrete).Thanks,Mario.

Anyone successfully shorten the wheelbase of a team magic E4 chassis? I'm trying to get mine to 10 inches. Its about 3/16 of an inch too long at the moment.