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Old 04-04-2006, 07:34 AM   #31
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the tommy kramer edition fixes this for carpet. it's 3mm graphite top and bottom without any cutouts, and the top plate is continuous, getting rid of the twin decks of the lcg, but keeping the removable diffs.

Can you please post the Tomy Krammer edition? And where can I get it?
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Old 04-04-2006, 01:38 PM   #32
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Talking MR-4TCSD TOMMY KRAMER EDITION

Oh you can't buy it in a store but you all can look at it....I happen to have a pic....and I must say.....it is good....
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Old 04-06-2006, 07:43 AM   #33
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Does anyone know if Andy Kraemer is Tommy's brother or something? I see there is an Andy Kraemer signed up for the Worlds warm up in italy? I wonder if they are realted if Andy will be using the Tommy edition also?
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That is an awesome looking chassis!
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Old 04-07-2006, 08:43 AM   #35
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Oh you can't buy it in a store but you all can look at it....I happen to have a pic....and I must say.....it is good....
is it going to be released soon/at all? i suspect that yokomo was deciding between releasing the tommy kramer edition sd, and the chris grainger edition bd car. the grainger car came out a few months ago, so maybe they scrapped the kramer car. i know they had a setup sheet for it made up....

any idea chubbs? how did you get those pics of it?

chicky,

i don't think they are related. kramer vs kraemer.
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Old 04-09-2006, 05:31 AM   #36
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I don't know if they are comming out with the TKSD edition. You might have to contact Yokomo direct.

I got the pic's off some website in the Netherland's. I got the pics about 3 weeks ago and the webpage has since closed?????

My best advice is to try to contact someone at Yokomo for more info.....
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Old 04-09-2006, 03:58 PM   #37
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[QUOTE=Sryder7] Looking at what's been said, nobody has said anything bad about the Pro4, it was all pros (hehe, no funny hun?)QUOTE]

yeah i would also appreciate seeing the downside of the hara ed pro4 because i'm planning on getting this car soon...
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Does anyone still run the Tommy Kramer Edition Yokomo?
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I've been around long enough to see shaft drive overtake belt drive and now belt drive becoming the hot setup again.

Belt drive has more friction than shaft drive.

Take my old HPI Mini RS4 (belt drive) and Cup Racer (shaft drive) and roll them both on the floor. The Cup Racer has noticeably less drag.

Take my old Align TRex 450v2 (belt drive) and new TRex 450 Pro (shaft drive) and spin their rotors. The Pro has noticeably less drag.

Being an old guy, I've had the Kyosho Optima "Mid", the original Yokomo YZ-10 "Dogfighter", the HPI RS4 Pro3 and RS4 Mini. They all ran well but had drag. If the belt is exposed it has the nasty habit of picking up detritus regularly and needing clearing of the pulley. Plus the belts would wear out fairly quickly - especially the rear drive belts.

I've sat out the whole shaft drive generation of RC on-road cars waiting for the designs to "settle out" and then to support brushless motors and LiPos. Unfortunately for me the designs settled out with nitro track cars that can't run on the street and have no bottom-end and ugly bodies - not to mention the hassle, expense, noise and oil residue of nitro.

Since nitro track cars and the touring car standard have all but killed on-road racing, I've been looking for electric (hopefully) shaft drive on-road cars myself and have given up on finding cars that are designed for brushless motors and LiPos. At this point electric on-road cars are so hard to find that I'm happy to find anything that is interesting and affordable. FYI - The Associated TC5x-TC6x are too expensive, too tweaky and can't run in front of the house.

So here are the only two decent shaft drive electric on-road cars that I can find: the HPI Cup Racer and the Tamiya TB-03 series. Both of them are nice cars but are also old and I wonder how long parts will be available for them. Once these cars are gone what will replace them?
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You might want to look at the Awesomatix A700. It's not for sale yet, but it's the only new shaft drive car I'm aware of. Very cool design.
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I think that little Cup Racer will be supported for a while. I could be wrong.

Or you could get a cheap Yokomo Drift car and convert it back to touring.
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Tamiya TB EVO 5MS gets my vote. I have always liked shaft drive cars. maybe with spec no boost no timing racing they will make a come back.
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