R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-23-2006, 09:58 AM   #1
Tech Elite
 
EDWARD2003's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 2,004
Trader Rating: 6 (100%+)
Default TAKE OFF CS-22's Pre-glued Problems

I guess there are a few guys who buy the takeoff cs-22's 27's ect the premounted tires they make. Have any of you guys run into problems with the tires un-glueing frequently? I have noticed several set's coming unglued during races, and I am getting a little tired of re-glueing the "Pre-Glued" tires.

I have noticed that they use very little to no glue in some spots. Did they hire and new tire glueing guy? LOL

Just wanted to check and see if anyone else has had this problem? Whats the point of buying pre-glued tires if there not properly glued.

Thanks

Edward.
EDWARD2003 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2006, 10:00 AM   #2
Tech Master
 
XMSRacing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Milwaukee
Posts: 1,013
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to XMSRacing Send a message via Yahoo to XMSRacing
Default

I run the 27's, but the first thing I do is run a extra bead of glue around the tire, inside and out. Nothing crazy, just a little extra. I hvaen't had a problem with a tire coming unglued since.
XMSRacing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2006, 10:40 AM   #3
Super Moderator
 
Marcos.J's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Semper Fi
Posts: 27,191
Trader Rating: 182 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by XMSRacing
I run the 27's, but the first thing I do is run a extra bead of glue around the tire, inside and out. Nothing crazy, just a little extra. I hvaen't had a problem with a tire coming unglued since.
same here
Marcos.J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2006, 11:31 AM   #4
Tech Master
 
polesitter61's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 1,009
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

No problems here either.....this may be a stupid question but are running enough camber so the tires are not running on the sidewalls? I'm sure you are but just a thought
__________________
Slickzero R/C products, check them out, very cheap shipping!!!
www.slickzero.com
polesitter61 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2006, 01:41 PM   #5
Tech Fanatic
 
fat500's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Boca Raton, florida
Posts: 983
Trader Rating: 29 (100%+)
Default

I used to distribute take-off japan & pentagon products in the usa prior to schuie and visited their factory on two occasions. They have very high quality control .
(the tire at the time was the wsa and wsb and std. a & b compounds) They take alot pride in their product. they also do extensive testing. They are all hand glued and assembled(cheap labor)and checked. sometimes the mold release agent is not properly cleaned from the tires on certian batches. this could be one bad batch. happend to me in the past. re gluing is your best bet or call schuie and see if they will help you.
fat500 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2006, 02:43 PM   #6
Tech Elite
 
EDWARD2003's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 2,004
Trader Rating: 6 (100%+)
Default thanks fat500

I have no doubt that they take great pride in their product.

But its occurred through shippments from schumacher, and borgfelt canada. Its not coming from one main distributor. The crappiest batch came from Schumacher, but schumacher has nothing to do with the quality.

I have just noticed this happening over the past 6 months, do you think the tire compound is eating away at the glue? Because i re-glued them and glued the side wall for extra strength. After two runs the glue is pretty much toast.
And I run -1.5 camber all 4 courners. There's no blistering of the tires to indicate excessive traction wear.


Thanks

Edward Pickering.
EDWARD2003 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2006, 11:11 PM   #7
Tech Champion
 
AdrianM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 5,914
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

I am sure this can happen. As far as frequency is concerned I have had one poorly glued tire in the last 4 years.

The Reedy Races use ~1200 4pks every May. I would say out of 1000 sets 5 guys may have a problems. Since its a major race most guys tug on the side walls to make sure they are ok and touch the glue job if necessary.

FYI, I used to see people blow out tires way more often when they glued them themselves
__________________
Adrian Martinez
What I run: Schumacher Mi5/Associated RC10R5.1/Associated RC12R5.2/Futaba/HobbyWing/Team EA Motorsports/BSR Racing
Where I run: Florida Indoor R/C Complex/Thunder Racing/Florida On Road State Series
AdrianM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2006, 11:19 PM   #8
Tech Fanatic
 
Nexus Racing's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 848
Default

The only times I have had problems with Take-off pre-mounts is after they have been left in a car or trailer on a hot day. The set of tires is seemingly lost forever after this, because if I re-glue one section, another section will then come unglued the next run!

Bottom line: play it safe by not leaving them in the car...no matter how long the drive home is, lol.
__________________
NEXUSRACING.com
Nexus Racing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2006, 01:48 PM   #9
Tech Addict
 
ICEMAN's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Germantown, TN
Posts: 730
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

i have gotten a few sets that were Never glued, and some only on one side, but no big deal, but it has happened
__________________
Blizzard Concepts / Team Losi / Team ProMatch / Team MuchMore / The SPEED Shop / Ko Propo USA / AVID RC / BigDog Graphics / Nitro R/C Chop Shop /

The ONE that DIES with the Most Toys WINS!!!
ICEMAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2006, 11:00 AM   #10
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Saskatoon SK
Posts: 262
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Where can I find information on Take Off tires? Do they have a website?
dasdaman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2006, 11:03 AM   #11
Super Moderator
 
Marcos.J's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Semper Fi
Posts: 27,191
Trader Rating: 182 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dasdaman
Where can I find information on Take Off tires? Do they have a website?
here

http://www.racing-cars.com/usa/produ...egory=Take+Off
Marcos.J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2006, 01:39 PM   #12
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Saskatoon SK
Posts: 262
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Thanks very much. That link shows some information on the CS series. Now, where can I find information on the RP series?

I am also looking for tempature ranges for each of the tires. Anybody know where that information can be found?
dasdaman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2006, 03:15 PM   #13
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 131
Default

On the back of the packet
__________________
Schumacher
Team Sorex
EA Motorsports
Speed Passion
East Coast Bodies
John Pape is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2006, 06:14 PM   #14
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Saskatoon SK
Posts: 262
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

I wish I had access to a pack. My hobby shop does not order any.
dasdaman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2007, 10:28 PM   #15
Tech Adept
 
totalazneclipse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 206
Trader Rating: 15 (100%+)
Default

Sorry to bring a old thread up, but I have put a extra bead of glue on the tires before running them and it seems to help, but the tire still manages to rip apart again. It happens with my CS 22/27 and my rp 30/24. I love the tires, but it just gets a little tiring having to glue them all the time.

Any suggestions?
__________________
All Speed Hobbies
www.allspeedhobbies.com
totalazneclipse is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pre Glued Tires Jamesalex Electric On-Road 6 09-05-2008 01:07 AM
New CS-22's Jam-ehz R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 1 02-06-2007 09:52 PM
Paypal ready for 1 new set of CS 22's!!! Terry M R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 11 04-26-2006 10:43 AM
Take Off cs-22's jim beam Australia For Sale/Trade 3 03-14-2006 02:59 PM
CS 27 and CS 22's tire sale 10sets Customworksking R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 5 12-29-2005 01:18 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 03:12 PM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net