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Old 08-04-2023, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by LowDrag
I don't know... there is a big gap in driver performance. There's typically two or three of us that break away and lap the rest of the field several times. The rest of them are playing bumper cars. You're lucky if you make it through lap traffic without someone hacking you. I really like the cars and the class, but it kind of turned into a class for the slow guys given how slow the cars are. All the fast guys that were in it initially bailed once all the slow guys jumped in because the hacking got annoying.
Where did the fast guys go? Bail altogether or running other classes?
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Old 08-04-2023, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by LowDrag
but it kind of turned into a class for the slow guys given how slow the cars are.
GT12 is a stepping stone for the faster pan classes. It's suppose to be slow and for the slow guys.
At our track it was even what the novice class was based on.
You would graduate from the novice class to the real GT12 then to 17.5 LMP
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Old 08-05-2023, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by biz77
Where did the fast guys go? Bail altogether or running other classes?
They just stayed in 21.5 or Mod Touring car.
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More like 21.5t only.....lol....
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Old 08-07-2023, 10:16 AM
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My track had a growing gt12 class and it started to fall off just a little when we started using the gravity USGT Black motor. When I say it fell off a little I mean we lost 2 out of 8 racers. So we still had 6 people that wanted to race the class regularly What really hurt the most was that 3 of the remaining 6 fast guys threw a temper tantrum about the motor choice and sold their equipment and made rants about it on social media. We ran the class yesterday with 3 people and it was by far the best closest racing of the day.
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Originally Posted by Kruss45
My track had a growing gt12 class and it started to fall off just a little when we started using the gravity USGT Black motor. When I say it fell off a little I mean we lost 2 out of 8 racers. So we still had 6 people that wanted to race the class regularly What really hurt the most was that 3 of the remaining 6 fast guys threw a temper tantrum about the motor choice and sold their equipment and made rants about it on social media. We ran the class yesterday with 3 people and it was by far the best closest racing of the day.
Was it open before or was it a just different spec motor?
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Old 08-07-2023, 11:51 AM
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We are still running the HW 17.5 FT motors and the racing is glorious. Those motors are so detuned they run like 21.5's without the variance. These things just run exactly the same from car to car. Not bad for a $60 motor haha. We do have a 1.8FDR limit though.
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Some of my favorite racing ever was at 180 Raceway (Baltimore), running GT12s on spec foam tires and with handout Motiv 17.5 motors that were all owned by the track. The batch of motors were all set and fixed at 35 degrees of timing and matched up by the track owner. Racers would blind draw their handout motor at the start of each race day and turn it back in after the dayís racing. It was fantastic fun super close competitive racing that was also really affordable. Most fun ever.
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Old 08-07-2023, 01:35 PM
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Access Hobbies in Springfield Ohio is running the GT12 class with foam tires. I ran it a few years ago but broke away from it as a select few were pissing and moaning about having to cut foam tires, maintenance, etc. Now there's a strong group of racers that want to run it that way again, and I couldn't be happier.
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Originally Posted by MUDVAYNE
Access Hobbies in Springfield Ohio is running the GT12 class with foam tires. I ran it a few years ago but broke away from it as a select few were pissing and moaning about having to cut foam tires, maintenance, etc. Now there's a strong group of racers that want to run it that way again, and I couldn't be happier.

I'll be running there the weekend after this in GT12 foam. At last month's race it was my first time using foam for GT. Little bit of a learning curve as I have always run rubber, but it was fun. I'm looking forward to running more often up there and trying out some stock racing. That new layout is the best I've ever run on.

My home track is Queen City down in Lebanon. We have a great following for GT12 with rubber tire and spec gearing, with sometimes up to three heats. We use the USGT or REEDY 21.5 motors, with most opting for the USGT since it's like 25 grams lighter.

Right now we have around 15 racers running GT12 on the 1/8 outdoor track for club races. Should be a great indoor season if all of them come indoors.
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Old 08-07-2023, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mrreet2001
Was it open before or was it a just different spec motor?
it was open motors and then we had a roar race right after snowbirds. I guess thatís when people were baking the rotors on the usgt motors and they were against strictly using the usgt motors for fear of people cheating
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Our track is foams and open 21.5 motors. I can't stand the USGT motors for various reasons and that's why I got out of USGT. I would have to give up GT12 if my track went to a spec or USGT motor.
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Originally Posted by Kruss45
guess thatís when people were baking the rotors on the usgt motors
Dont think Ive ever seen a USGT over geared enough to bake the rotor.
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Originally Posted by Carnage9270
We are still running the HW 17.5 FT motors and the racing is glorious. Those motors are so detuned they run like 21.5's without the variance. These things just run exactly the same from car to car. Not bad for a $60 motor haha. We do have a 1.8FDR limit though.
Still too fast. USGT motors are also "detuned" and they run like hot 25.5 motors.

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Dont think Ive ever seen a USGT over geared enough to bake the rotor.
Not in 12GT anyway. We are running at or near 1:1 with out a fan.
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Old 08-08-2023, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbob
Dont think Ive ever seen a USGT over geared enough to bake the rotor.
it wasnít from being over geared. Some people take the rotor out and literally bake it in the oven.
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