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INSTRUCTION MANUALS:
Vehicle instruction manual: https://cdn.simba-dickie-group.de/do...2-car-tc01.pdf
Formula E body instruction manual: https://cdn.simba-dickie-group.de/do...e-gen2-car.pdf


HOPUPS:

DRIVE TRAIN:
• Universal Prop shaft (TC01): #54975
• Double Cardon Prop Shaft (TC01): #54961
• Aluminum spur gear holder: #54903
• Universal shafts: #54515
• Clamp hex hub: #53570 or #53823
• Double cardan shaft: #42360
• Double cardan joints (TRF): #42216 (set) & #42239 (42mm shaft)
• Different Aluminum Drive Cup: #54543
• Steel Bevel Differential Gears: #54540
Aluminum spur gear holder: #54903
• Gear Differential Steel Cross Shaft: #54533


BEARINGS (in MM):
• 3x6x2.5: x2
• 9x5x3: x1
• 9x5 (flanged): x1
• 5x8x2.5: x12
• 5x10x4: x10
• 5x10x3: x2
• 10x15x4: x4

SCREWS:
• 3x5mm Titanium Hex Head Screws x4
• 3x6mm Titanium Hex Head Screws x6
• 3x8mm Titanium Hex Head Screws x18
• 3x10mm Titanium Hex Head Screws x13
• 3x12mm Titanium Hex Head Screws x12
• 3x6mm Titanium Hex Head Countersunk Screws x5
• 3x8mm Titanium Hex Head Countersunk Screws x10
• 3x10mm Titanium Hex Head Countersunk Screws x8


SUSPENSION:
• Suspension arm mounts (rear skid angle): #54787
• Supension arm mounts: #54760
• Stabilizers: #54956
• Aluminum rocker arms: #54955
• TRF big bore shocks: #42354
• TRF works shocks: #84317
• TRF Special shocks: #42102
• Carbon rear crossmember: #54783
• Carbon front crossmember: #54782
• Low friction suspension balls: #54747
• Titanium Coated suspension shaft: #53581
• Flourine supension balls: #53709
• Titanium Coated Shock Shaft: #54043
• Aluminum shock extenders: #54960

WTCC's adjustable suspension Conversion:
Parts needed:
• 3x23mm turnbuckles (x8)
• Yokomo #BM-206
• Awesomatix #P18 AND P19
• TRF 420 front hubs


DIFFERENTIALS:
• One way diff: #54521
• Spool: #54592
• Ball diff: #54522

TURNBUCKLES:
• Front Toe 3x18mm: #54247
• Rear Toe 3x32mm: #54249
• Steering Link 3x42mm:#54250
• Open Face Ball Ends: #54868

MISCELLANEOUS:
• Titanium Screw Set: #47449
• Servo mount screws: #54862
• POM Spacers: #54855
• Carbon front stiffeners: #54962
• Aluminum steering arms: #54958
• Aluminum steering bridge: #54957


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Old 04-03-2021, 12:04 AM
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Just joined after finding this thread. I appreciate all the info and shared builds on here. I hope to continue to learn and contribute. I built a TC-01 to go fast with last year. I only got to really run it once. I got too excited on the throttle and it darted off and cart wheeled in the grass. I was fortunate to have only broken a body post and lose a steering link that popped off. I had barely passed 50mph when it happened. I now have spools for front and rear and am getting an aluminum steering brace. With a better road and more careful driving I'm hoping to get some much better results.

Anyways. Thank you all for sharing.
(and apparently I am not yet allowed to share pics so here is the rest of my post sans pics)

I only got to drive it for like 3 min before getting this as the end result.

Tight fit. trying to maximize cooling and keep my motor leads as short as possible to the Trinity Monster 2.0T

A crowded view of of some extra fans in place. There is also one more under the front brace blowing air across the Tekin RS Pro Black ESC from the servo side.
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What is the logic behind spools all around? That sounds predestined for another "darting episode"
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Keeping the tires going the same speed helps keep them from expanding at different rates(as you already know). You'd be surprised at how much of a difference it can be with some of these motors. I even blew a tire up on the bench while testing. It was surprising how fast it happened. Those uneven can cause some serious control issues at speed. Just trying to reduce anywhere that might cause the car to go off on its own.
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Tight fit. trying to maximize cooling and keep my motor leads as short as possible to the Trinity Monster 2.0T


2.0T on this car? No wonder a lot weird things start to happen.
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It was glorious! I've never had that happen on an rc car before so it was pretty exciting.

I'd like to see how fast it'll go and what parts it breaks along the way. The body and low chassis got me interested in seeing what this car could do. I'm still working on the body as I'm trying to do it a bit differently. I'm hoping some strategic cuts and thoughtful additions help it as approach 100mph. Or maybe it'll just come apart and leave bits everywhere...
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Default Toyota Gazoo Racing TS050 Hybrid VS FIA Formula E Gen 2


Has anyone been able to compare the 2 TC-01 configurations yet?
Both Tamiya bodies are out for individual sale and actually both configurations are allowed for TCS, so it would be handy to know which is actually better.
The two car variations are required to run the same tire, motor and 1500g.

FIA Formula E Gen 2:
-Front Splitter: 33.3 g
-Rear Diffuser 22.9 g
-Body Mounts 6.3 g
-3 Body Clips
-1 Helmet
-Front Flaps 40mm wide
-Rear Wings 64mm wide
-Rear Diffuser 116mm wide

Toyota Gazoo Racing TS050 Hybrid:
-Front Bumpers 10.4 g
-Front Foam 5.1 g
-Rear Bumper 6.7 g
-Shock Brace 2.8 g
-Body Mounts 9.0 g
-4 Body clips
-Rear Wing 180mm wide

So the Formula E's components weigh in at 62.5 g vs the Toyota LMP's 34.0 g (Not Counting Seperate Body Style Weights)
That's a difference of 28.5 g to swap in between the 2.

One significant difference is that the Formula E has a large rear diffuser and a pretty much useless rear wing coming in at 60mm wide, which leaves the rear end oversteer happy on corner entry. While the Toyota LMP comes in with a full rear width coverage. Another thing to consider is that the Formula E front and rear bumpers have very good crash protection while the Toyota LMP leaves the body pretty well exposed to crash damage in all directions.

Anyways, I'd really like to hear what the LMP runners have in feedback for the Configuration, even in Touring car Configuration
Also if anyone has the Body weight for the LMP so that I can compare it to the FE
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Toyota looks cool...imo

Can't say it handles any better/worse than the Fe body, as I've only ever used the TOYOTA on my TC-01.. That being said, it was a handful in the beginning till i settled it down by working on my setup..

that is all..
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I have run the Toyota on an F103GT, and to be honest I think it has a lot of weight up high, with the big fin and greenhouse area. The Courage body (closer to the style of the Formula E) seemed to be better.

I'm sure that fin does help stability, however.
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got both bodys and a full hop up tc01 but unfortunately currently no driving because of covid...
I bet that the LMP is the better choice but and you need to handle rear grip.
the formula e got a heavy front and some german driver told me also few rear grip, so I think the lmp ist the better choice but I also think the better driver win`s and not the body so choose the good looking LMP
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Originally Posted by forumusername
It was glorious! I've never had that happen on an rc car before so it was pretty exciting.

I'd like to see how fast it'll go and what parts it breaks along the way. The body and low chassis got me interested in seeing what this car could do. I'm still working on the body as I'm trying to do it a bit differently. I'm hoping some strategic cuts and thoughtful additions help it as approach 100mph. Or maybe it'll just come apart and leave bits everywhere...
For speed bashing, I use an original TA05 with a very old Novak 3.5T motor on 2S. Front is a spool and rear is gear diff with 3k. I don’t recommend a rear spool. I recommend practicing applying throttle progressively. Gearing is 102/24t (8.73 fdr) and on 2S. Tyres are Sorex 36R. it hits 60 mph. To push it further will simply ☢️ the ESC, as the FDR is already below recommended guidelines.

A 2.0T in the TC-01 would get you to 75 mph max... To get to 100, you need to look to
1. higher voltage 3S/4S
2. Higher turn motor as 2.0 won’t handle higher voltage
3. Foam tyres - TC / MOD tyres can’t handle those speeds and current drag tyres are for buggy based platforms
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Fun fact, the Nissan Nismo LM should work on the TC-01. I will have mines painted shortly. Not TCS legal though but it seems it will be the lightest of the other two Formula E-body and the TS050.

I will weigh my TS050 in a bit. I used it for TCS. The cars still came in very overweight. Well over the 1500g minimum even with light electronics.

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Fun fact, the Nissan Nismo LM should work on the TC-01. I will have mines painted shortly. Not TCS legal though but it seems it will be the lightest of the other two Formula E-body and the TS050.

I will weigh my TS050 in a bit. I used it for TCS. The cars still came in very overweight. Well over the 1500g minimum even with light electronics.
I've been looking for one of these. Do you know where I can find one.. or two?
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https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/f1gt/...issan-gt-r-lm/

In stock at Tamiyausa
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Right now my TC-01 is geared with a speed gear from a TT-02. So 68s (instead of the kit 63s) and the stock pinion. I definitely need to work on throttle control. Like many I have become obsessed with speed. I also relish in the building of these cars. I also have a TT-02 with a 775 motor directly connected to the diffs. My TT-02 SR has been my mild vehicle with a monster X and 4600kv set up(currently being tested with a 1/16 vxl revo combo with something ridiculous in the works).

Anyhow, as far as the TC-01 goes, I do have foam tires for it. The Trinity Monster motors are billed as drag motors. Officially they say it can handle 3s but do not recommend it and remind customers that there is no warranty on drag motors. That being said, the 2.0t should be in the 10,000 kv range. I do hope to find a good stretch of road and some good weather to see where it lands with this set up. Using the RC Gearing calculator shows some good results even when taking some voltage drop into consideration. I was under the impression when I bought the Tekin set-up it could handle high amps. I do hope I wasn't wrong.

If/when I get my driveway redone I'd love to set up and area for an onroad track. Might build differently then.
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Another thing I realized on my TC-01.. Its a bit narrower than regular TC..

Mounted a USGT body (ZOO racing BWOAH) on it and got some inner fender tire scrub in the tight turns. enough to have front braking.

Its probably mentioned in the manual somewhere...
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