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Old 07-10-2023, 11:56 AM
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In my opinion, after driving in the F1 class on large asphalt tracks to tight indoor carpet tracks for the better decade, F1 aero makes little difference versus sedan/GT body shells. RC F1 is heavily dependent on mechanical grip.

Those guys trying to play with wing angle adjustments or servo operated DRS rear wing system are wasting their time.

The biggest effect I have found is #1, the weight of the wing. And #2, how far away or high the wing is mounted outwards of the chassis. A very light front wing that is closer to the chassis will produce a car that is more responsive to direction changes while a very heavy front wing, that sticks further out will feel more stable in turns and slower to react. Lightweight and low rear wings are my preference for high traction, tight carpet tracks. Heavier and taller rear wings can help on lower traction, asphalt tracks to generate grip. Again, these are just my observations and is easy to test out the theory.
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Originally Posted by Dan
In my opinion, after driving in the F1 class on large asphalt tracks to tight indoor carpet tracks for the better decade, F1 aero makes little difference versus sedan/GT body shells. RC F1 is heavily dependent on mechanical grip.

Those guys trying to play with wing angle adjustments or servo operated DRS rear wing system are wasting their time.

The biggest effect I have found is #1, the weight of the wing. And #2, how far away or high the wing is mounted outwards of the chassis. A very light front wing that is closer to the chassis will produce a car that is more responsive to direction changes while a very heavy front wing, that sticks further out will feel more stable in turns and slower to react. Lightweight and low rear wings are my preference for high traction, tight carpet tracks. Heavier and taller rear wings can help on lower traction, asphalt tracks to generate grip. Again, these are just my observations and is easy to test out the theory.
Nice write up Dan. I keep going back and forth on selling my Icon.. I have no desire to run it on a parking lot asphalt track and hopes of a permanent track have dwindled away.
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Old 07-12-2023, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Raman
Nice write up Dan. I keep going back and forth on selling my Icon.. I have no desire to run it on a parking lot asphalt track and hopes of a permanent track have dwindled away.
So, no chance of a 702 3.0 carpet track?
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Originally Posted by mooby64
So, no chance of a 702 3.0 carpet track?
Weíre about to anniversary 1 year of its closing and no one has stepped up with capex for a 3.0 🥲 My lotto tickets didnít hit either 🤬

Hopes of refurbishing the silverbowl are also gone.

We have a steady bi-weekly parking lot going, with decent turn out of nitro tc and USGT, occasional Eurotruck.

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That is too bad, I was just in the Vegas area earlier this year and stopped by a random RC shop to check it out. Was pretty underwhelming, really miss 702 raceway! Never got to check out the newer place, only the old place prior.
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Originally Posted by Dan
That is too bad, I was just in the Vegas area earlier this year and stopped by a random RC shop to check it out. Was pretty underwhelming, really miss 702 raceway! Never got to check out the newer place, only the old place prior.
You must have stopped at Friendly Hobbies. Itís never been a great place, more of a bashers place.
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Old 07-23-2023, 08:14 AM
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How are you guys mounting fans in your icon any pics would be great thanks
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Originally Posted by fat500
How are you guys mounting fans in your icon any pics would be great thanks
stick it right on the wing mount
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Old 07-23-2023, 06:27 PM
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stick it right on the wing mount
I have mine mounted to the wing mount, but was wondering what direction to mount the fan? Mine is curranty mounted to blow forward to the motor, wondering id I may be dead heading the fan at speed? Thinking about flipping it around to blow hot are out the back from the motor,
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Old 07-23-2023, 09:08 PM
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I use the R1 Wurks ring mount that wraps around the motor. Fan blowing air onto the motor.
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So I went with Dan's advice and use the ring around the motor mount and I got a one-up racing fan that is super small and rounded. it does not rub the body at all under full compression and side to side movement took about 20 minutes of fiddling to get a position perfectly but overall I'm very happy with the results

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I may try a small plastic 7 mm thick ultra thin fan although this one moves some serious air
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I would mount the fan on the rear wing mount, as it lowers the center of gravity. Maybe you can even remove the Mass Damper on the rear.
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Old 07-28-2023, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Slyd3x
I would mount the fan on the rear wing mount, as it lowers the center of gravity. Maybe you can even remove the Mass Damper on the rear.
Iíd get rid of those wire ties in the motor wires also. Take as many precautions as you can to keep that rear pod motion from binding
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Guess I found out why my wheels look this bad...

Front Wishbones are cracked and the aluminium standoffs are bend.
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