224LikesSchumacher F1
09-05-2021, 05:54 PM
#168
Originally Posted by shadowracer24
Never could get my computer to scan in the setup sheet so hoping y'all can read this. Forgot to add I raised the ends of the side tubes by .50 mm shim.
09-05-2021, 06:56 PM
#169
I haven't seen a comparison chart either. They are basically med to med hard springs and the Roche springs are the same as the Schumacher gold's. I like the xenon front springs mostly because they are a little bigger and don't rub on the kingpin under compression. This car generates a lot of mechanical grip so the trick is to find the right sauce amount to use to achieve the grip level you want. Bear in mind this is with CRC tires on high grip black carpet.
10-21-2021, 02:03 AM
#170
Tech Rookie
New Icon driver here (heck new to F1 RC in general). Only been testing the car a few days, and only in a car park as we're in lockdown here in Auckland, NZ right now. Clipped a curb today (lightly), and bent the chassis post giving the car an annoying tweak 
Guess the first upgrade is to by the uprated chassis posts...
I've got a quick newbie question, I have found the rear very sensitive under initial acceleration and under breaking (low grip asphalt). This seems to come under control as I do a few laps. Is this because I don't have tire warmers or is it a ball diff adjustment thing? I'm running Rush medium front's and soft rears, kit set up and ride height, 6 degree caster. Thanks all.
Guess the first upgrade is to by the uprated chassis posts...I've got a quick newbie question, I have found the rear very sensitive under initial acceleration and under breaking (low grip asphalt). This seems to come under control as I do a few laps. Is this because I don't have tire warmers or is it a ball diff adjustment thing? I'm running Rush medium front's and soft rears, kit set up and ride height, 6 degree caster. Thanks all.
10-21-2021, 08:29 AM
#171
Originally Posted by RedDevil13
Im new to F1, pan cars and even on road in general. Is there a chart to compare all the various manufacturers springs? I currently only have access to the full schumacher spring sets. Until I get a hold of the Roche Evo Gold and Xenon .475 springs, what is the closest comparison? Ive done a ton of searching for pan car spring charts but most are way outdated and some arent even available, just broken links
In general, I tend to stick to Xray and CRC springs for my F1 cars so that it is easy for me to setup the car when I know the spring rates very well. Plus they are readily available and easy to get. Fronts I like the Xray 1.5, 2.0, and 2.5 should be in your pit box. I usually use 1.5 or 2.0 95% of the time. Side springs I like the CRC 0.40mm, 0.45mm, and 0.50mm. Again, usually using 0.40mm or 0.45mm 95% of the time. On the CRC side spring, you just have to use pliers to tighten up the diameter a bit to fit on the Schumacher spring holder but its very minor.
Again, this is all for CRC black carpet but would work with asphalt too. The Xray front springs are similar in height to the stock schumacher springs and same with the CRC side springs. I find the Schumacher stock and option springs are too stiff for black carpet.
10-22-2021, 07:28 AM
#172
Originally Posted by dawgmeat
Who made those stand offs for you
w-w-w.mcmaster.com/spacers/female-threaded-hex-standoffs-6/system-of-measurement~metric/thread-size~m3/material~aluminum/
10-25-2021, 10:18 PM
#173
Originally Posted by metalcrafter
these & most hardware nut-screws washers etc are readily available . Fortunately they asre on my way home every day , or ups 1 day ground.
w-w-w.mcmaster.com/spacers/female-threaded-hex-standoffs-6/system-of-measurement~metric/thread-size~m3/material~aluminum/
w-w-w.mcmaster.com/spacers/female-threaded-hex-standoffs-6/system-of-measurement~metric/thread-size~m3/material~aluminum/
10-26-2021, 07:59 AM
#174
Originally Posted by dawgmeat
Are those standoffs 4.4mm or 6mm diameter
All F-1 cars are prone to breakage/damage of the rear axle & hubs ,any damage will create an imbalance & loss of rear traction etc.
After installing the bars i've had zero issues & no need to replace the expensive rear axle or hub. Added bonus, the tires last longer too !
I run the x-ray gear diff w/10-k oil , which I find is more consistent than any ball diff. Seems like the ball diff is constantly changing as the grease "slings" off
Currently working on a longitudinal battery setup. , similar to the Tamiya setup. I'll post pics & finding in a few weeks.
10-26-2021, 08:17 AM
#175
Originally Posted by metalcrafter
The stand-offs are 6-mm hex. Recently I also made a thicker aluminum cross beam to support the nerf bars on either side.
All F-1 cars are prone to breakage/damage of the rear axle & hubs ,any damage will create an imbalance & loss of rear traction etc.
After installing the bars i've had zero issues & no need to replace the expensive rear axle or hub. Added bonus, the tires last longer too !
I run the x-ray gear diff w/10-k oil , which I find is more consistent than any ball diff. Seems like the ball diff is constantly changing as the grease "slings" off
Currently working on a longitudinal battery setup. , similar to the Tamiya setup. I'll post pics & finding in a few weeks.
All F-1 cars are prone to breakage/damage of the rear axle & hubs ,any damage will create an imbalance & loss of rear traction etc.
After installing the bars i've had zero issues & no need to replace the expensive rear axle or hub. Added bonus, the tires last longer too !
I run the x-ray gear diff w/10-k oil , which I find is more consistent than any ball diff. Seems like the ball diff is constantly changing as the grease "slings" off
Currently working on a longitudinal battery setup. , similar to the Tamiya setup. I'll post pics & finding in a few weeks.
11-30-2021, 10:53 AM
#176
Took the TQ and win this past weekend at Race to the birds points series at Beach line raceway in cocoa Florida. This earned me an entry to the Snowbird nationals this year which I am really excited about. This car has been the fastest of the field the whole series and can't wait to see how it does at the nationals.
12-01-2021, 03:38 AM
#177
Tech Addict
iTrader: (6)
Originally Posted by shadowracer24
Took the TQ and win this past weekend at Race to the birds points series at Beach line raceway in cocoa Florida. This earned me an entry to the Snowbird nationals this year which I am really excited about. This car has been the fastest of the field the whole series and can't wait to see how it does at the nationals.
thank you!
12-01-2021, 09:15 PM
#179
Tech Addict
iTrader: (6)
Originally Posted by shadowracer24
The only change I made was I ran a trinity x factor motor and 96 spur. Everything else the same. I have the fan mounted to the back of the car just behind the axle but plan to move it above. Didn't quite cool the motor as much as I like there.
for the fan I remove the wing mount support and bolt the wing direct on the alu chassi i have no space behind the axle i try on top with exotek fan mount bracket but not great result for now !
I will try to slide a 25x25x7 tekin esc fan between the motor and the center shock brace in front of the motor i have that setup in the past on my Serpent SF4 maybe good if it works !
Last edited by Quinny45; 12-02-2021 at 03:41 AM.
01-03-2022, 12:25 PM
#180
Tech Rookie
Hi all. Brand new to this forum and looking to get an F1 kit for me and my son. Think I’m going to go for the Icon. All of the information in this thread has been super helpful. One thing that I’ve seen mentioned multiple times is the weak front posts that need replaced. Is this part #U7864 as some of you have illustrated? If so, I have no idea where to find the beefed up aluminum replacements that have been mentioned. Am I looking at the wrong part? Is there anything else you would recommend upgrading from the kit? I noticed there’s a heavy duty top deck conversion. Has anyone tried or found a need for it? Thank you all so much for any help you can provide.
