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Old 03-12-2006, 08:40 PM   #1
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Endurance Racing, Old School Motor Zapper, need help!

Hello,

I have an old school motor zapper. Its an Endurance Racing Products DC Model 3000. I've had it a minimum of 10 years now and found it while cleaning up. The label says they're out of Las Vegas.

Does anyone have any information on how the unit works, or if it's a good unit at all? I would appreciate it. I have a friend looking for one, and I don't want to sell him a piece of junk.

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Old 03-12-2006, 08:45 PM   #2
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compared to the one Trinity makes, its not near as good..
but ...

It still works, just not as strong of zap ...


used to be quite the ticket back then....
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Old 03-12-2006, 08:48 PM   #3
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Thanks for the info.

Any idea on how it works? How long you run it? Which side is positive etc?
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Hardly remember ...
but I think you zap motor for about 5 min to 10 min

and

I think the gizmo on the right is positive...
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Not sure of actual model but if it is the one I remember it will not work very good anymore. The magnets in todays motors are so much stronger it will do nothing but make the motor worse. I had one it was at least 15 years ago, cant remeber exact model. good at the time, I found mine like 5 years ago and tried it, it was pretty bad.
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Yeah, I was kinda wondering that as well with the magnet technology of today....

When I look down from the top, the positive binding post for the input is on the left..... I would assume that is positive, but I don't know.

I am going to try some old motors kicking around just for some fun. Are you suppossed to zap it backwards first to remove the magnetism, and then do it properly to reinstate it?

I'll have to see if I can post a picture of it tomorrow night

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none of the Endurance zappers (ERP zappers) worked.

They actually demagnetized your magnets and weakened them in most cases.

The 12 volt and the 110 never worked properly.

It was a well marketed paper weight at best.
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Tempest,

Are they really that bad? I've seen the unit you sell online, so I would trust your knowledge on this to be quite accurate.

Oh well, paper weight it is... Thanks for the info
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none of the Endurance zappers (ERP zappers) worked.

They actually demagnetized your magnets and weakened them in most cases.

The 12 volt and the 110 never worked properly.

It was a well marketed paper weight at best.

this is the one that I have ,and one of the best zappers out there
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Tempest,

Are they really that bad? I've seen the unit you sell online, so I would trust your knowledge on this to be quite accurate.

Oh well, paper weight it is... Thanks for the info
or a boat anchor
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Tempest,

Are they really that bad? I've seen the unit you sell online, so I would trust your knowledge on this to be quite accurate.

Oh well, paper weight it is... Thanks for the info
Yes they are that bad.

back in the day 10 years ago or more we tried to make a patch for the units instead of building our own and we put up to 800 volts at one point and modified some parts and it still wouldn't fully zap a magnet so we had to start from scratch.
The people that built the zapper had no idea what they were doing.

The wire was wrong, the amount of steel, the pole shoes, nothing was right on the units.

I just hate to see people waste time on something that doesn't work.

In most cases it demagntetizes the magnets a little. which on the fantom dyno's it sometimes looks better which was what people were using back then. The bad part is that people couldn't figure out why there motors ran slower on the track. Motors started overheating and slowing down.
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I think the ERP has been actually labeled as a boat anchor, as it did not even make an effective paper weight. Rumors were that papers were seen flying off desks across the nation...

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