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Old 10-23-2019, 10:21 PM
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This point from Overview of main specs is funny :-D
Same heave damper front and rear which is mounted below the diff/spool just above the chassis for lowest possible center of gravity
It not correspond with pictures above, there is no room for heave damper :-D
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Old 10-24-2019, 12:47 AM
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Is this for the front?
Floating steering parts
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Old 10-24-2019, 01:43 AM
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Serpent Model Racing Cars - Product - Serpent Medius X20 MID carbon 1/10 EP - Description
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The complete manual is available to download!!! Serpent Model Racing Cars - Product - Serpent Medius X20 MID carbon 1/10 EP - Downloads
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Originally Posted by hmax View Post
This point from Overview of main specs is funny :-D

It not correspond with pictures above, there is no room for heave damper :-D
Crappy copy/paste I think... With traditional shocks it would have been interesting to keep the roll damper, but the heave damper...

I like what they are trying to do but:
- Two points knuckles in the rear :-(
- No reinforcement in the front part of upper-deck, already broke one :-(

By the way, there are A LOT of options!

401831 Wishbone insert carbon (2) X20

401860 Chassis alu soft X20
401861 Chassis alu medium X20
401862 Chassis alu hard X20
401864 Shocktower stiffner carbon fr/rr X20
401864 ???
401865 Stiffner fr/rr mount X20
401866 Chassis stiffner center mid carbon X20
401867 Chassis stiffner center rr carbon X20
401868 Chassis brace fr carbon X20
401869 Chassis brace rr carbon X20
401870 Chassis stiffner center mount mid X20
401871 Shocktower stiffner set fr/rr X20
401872 Chassis brace set fr X20
401873 Chassis brace set rr X20
401874 Chassis center stiffner set rr X20
401875 Chassis center stiffner set mid X20

There are a lot of stiffners...




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Prototype Part 2
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Old 10-24-2019, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Airwave View Post
Crappy copy/paste I think... With traditional shocks it would have been interesting to keep the roll damper, but the heave damper...

I like what they are trying to do but:
- Two points knuckles in the rear :-(
- No reinforcement in the front part of upper-deck, already broke one :-(

By the way, there are A LOT of options!

401831 Wishbone insert carbon (2) X20

401860 Chassis alu soft X20
401861 Chassis alu medium X20
401862 Chassis alu hard X20
401864 Shocktower stiffner carbon fr/rr X20
401864 ???
401865 Stiffner fr/rr mount X20
401866 Chassis stiffner center mid carbon X20
401867 Chassis stiffner center rr carbon X20
401868 Chassis brace fr carbon X20
401869 Chassis brace rr carbon X20
401870 Chassis stiffner center mount mid X20
401871 Shocktower stiffner set fr/rr X20
401872 Chassis brace set fr X20
401873 Chassis brace set rr X20
401874 Chassis center stiffner set rr X20
401875 Chassis center stiffner set mid X20

There are a lot of stiffners...
Wow this is very interesting... I like stiff car.
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Is it just me, or is there no mounting point at all for the top brace in the center? Even with a carbon brace, thatís a long span across the length of the chassis. I can see how the brace could possibly snap in the event of a hard frontal impact.

IIRC, someone mentioned in either the 4x, or the dedicated Mid-motor thread that they had snapped the brace on their 4x Medius conversion. This would certainly be a case for the return of the vertical top brace, although thereís no guarantee that lateral bending will be avoided either.
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All the flex options does make this kit pretty attractive.
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Originally Posted by TurnNBurn View Post
Is it just me, or is there no mounting point at all for the top brace in the center? Even with a carbon brace, thatís a long span across the length of the chassis. I can see how the brace could possibly snap in the event of a hard frontal impact.

IIRC, someone mentioned in either the 4x, or the dedicated Mid-motor thread that they had snapped the brace on their 4x Medius conversion. This would certainly be a case for the return of the vertical top brace, although thereís no guarantee that lateral bending will be avoided either.
Seems like they are using a fair amount of available stiffeners along the bottom as a spine and the top brace is not a big structural piece to take flex away, they could have easily made an attachment point in the center and didnít so there must be a good reason. I canít see Admiral Akbar (David Ehrbar) letting a top plate into production that would snap right and left. They speak a lot of applied engineering learned from the 4X project so I am giving them the benefit of the doubt until I snap one easily.....David Messaged me on Facebook after I commented on the SF4 having some problems with fragility (and center shock), he is very keen to improve the platform and itís not everyday a top notch engineer reaches out (at least not imo) to see how they can improve a product.

Serpent obviously wants some market share and with their lineup as diverse as it is and improved customer support and getting product issues sorted they could gain ground...more power to them for not copying others and adding some fresh designs to the market.
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So I just got the message of the release date is November 1. Love all these different designs coming out for TC.
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I donít mean to sound critical, because the car looks fascinating, but if anyone plans to run this with the carbon chassis, Iíd consider getting a thin strip of brass stock to trim and super glue onto the chassis underneath the locations where the droop screws will make contact with the chassis. The experience of running old 10th scale pan cars with T-plate suspensions taught me that the screws used to adjust tweak will eventually dig into the chassis, altering your tweak over time, and even possibly as the car runs once it starts to dig in. Iím not saying that it isnít possible to dig into the aluminum/magnesium chassis as well, but it would certainly be a much slower process.

The better technical solution IMHO would be to adjust it by limiting the shockís extension travel with internal shims, albeit with the inconvenience of having to teardown the shock to do so.
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