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12-23-2019, 10:11 AM
#241
Here is my poor mans caster gauge.
The scale on the setup tool is a rough marking, I use a inclinometer againt the brass edge to get a better reading. The pins are ground to a point so they locate into the ball studs and the 3mm screws are snug in the capture cups. It works pretty good.
The scale on the setup tool is a rough marking, I use a inclinometer againt the brass edge to get a better reading. The pins are ground to a point so they locate into the ball studs and the 3mm screws are snug in the capture cups. It works pretty good.
12-23-2019, 10:18 AM
#242
If your in a rush and need to check your rear toe setting, you can set your car upright and use your camber guage for a quick reference. Not as accurate as a setup station but for a quick check it works.
12-23-2019, 10:29 AM
#244
I ended up changing my weight distribution on the car from my initial setup. I took all the nose weight out of the car and now have it down the middle of the car. With the exception of some weight on the left of the car for balance the car now scales out with a perfect 50/50 l/r and a 51/49 f/r. The car works well on our crc balck carpet. I did have a small two wheel issue in a couple sections of our track, but ended up going to lighter springs all around on the car and that settled it down.I also changed the ackerman on the car but ended up going to the suggested 1mm spacing. One thing I noticed when I did this and is something to look out for.
THE BALL STUDS DO NOT HAVE THREADS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE STOP, SO IF YOU TRY TO RUN NO SPACERS YOU CAN RUIN THE THREADS ON THE STEERING RACK.
You can fix this by doing a small back cut into the rack, taking out the first couple threads, or never use less than 1mm of spacing.
THE BALL STUDS DO NOT HAVE THREADS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE STOP, SO IF YOU TRY TO RUN NO SPACERS YOU CAN RUIN THE THREADS ON THE STEERING RACK.
You can fix this by doing a small back cut into the rack, taking out the first couple threads, or never use less than 1mm of spacing.
12-23-2019, 10:38 AM
#245
Originally Posted by Marcos.J
This is my method and a lot more accurate
12-23-2019, 10:51 AM
#246
Originally Posted by Johnny Wishbone
Mine is based on true kingpin inclination and doesn't take into account deflection of the steering arm itself. I use a inclinometer against the brass edge, but I'd need a third hand to take that pic, lol. If your arm is a true 90* to the kingpin then your method would work too.
12-23-2019, 10:53 AM
#247
Originally Posted by Johnny Wishbone
Mine is based on true kingpin inclination and doesn't take into account deflection of the steering arm itself. I use a inclinometer against the brass edge, but I'd need a third hand to take that pic, lol. If your arm is a true 90* to the kingpin then your method would work too.
12-23-2019, 11:30 AM
#248
Originally Posted by Marcos.J
as long as you have very accurate holes drilled and a accurate sharpie
12-23-2019, 11:32 AM
#249
Originally Posted by Marcos.J
Felix is working an a chart to use with the calipers
12-23-2019, 11:56 AM
#250
Originally Posted by Johnny Wishbone
The sharpie marks are just for quick reference, the inclinometer is the accurate measuring device. The pointed ends on the screws locate to the ball studs and provided they aren't bent they run threw a true center line of all three factors. Mine is as accurate as your assumption that both bases of your standoff are the same diameter, lol. I'm sure we both have +/- tolerances in our systems, LOL.
12-23-2019, 12:58 PM
#251
Originally Posted by Marcos.J
agreed it all goes out the window when you tap at the first turn lol
12-25-2019, 10:54 PM
#252
12-28-2019, 08:24 AM
#253
Well, I got all the chassis stiffening parts I ordered in yesterday. Of course, this was BEFORE many of the parts I ordered didn’t have pictures, so for the most part, I played it safe and ordered the sets. I did, however, order the hanging steering mount, but low and behold, it’s included in the fr chassis stiffening set.
Anyway, I was going to give y’all a heads up, but I see that almost all the pictures are up on the Serpent site now.
Anyway, I was going to give y’all a heads up, but I see that almost all the pictures are up on the Serpent site now.
12-28-2019, 01:31 PM
#254
Originally Posted by TurnNBurn
Well, I got all the chassis stiffening parts I ordered in yesterday. Of course, this was BEFORE many of the parts I ordered didn’t have pictures, so for the most part, I played it safe and ordered the sets. I did, however, order the hanging steering mount, but low and behold, it’s included in the fr chassis stiffening set.
Anyway, I was going to give y’all a heads up, but I see that almost all the pictures are up on the Serpent site now.
Anyway, I was going to give y’all a heads up, but I see that almost all the pictures are up on the Serpent site now.
Just a heads up. I will be receiving a 1.5mm and 2.0 mm upper deck. I am excited to try and post up my reviews. The upper deck is being made by CristianTabush (RSD/ Gizmo developer)
12-28-2019, 04:52 PM
#255
Originally Posted by Brian10811
Cool TurnNBurn, I am interested in the outcome once you installed them on the car and tested them. I look forward in hearing about your review after a race day. Based on Felix's review about the center steering linkage sounds interesting. Are you running carbon or graphite chassis?
Just a heads up. I will be receiving a 1.5mm and 2.0 mm upper deck. I am excited to try and post up my reviews. The upper deck is being made by CristianTabush (RSD/ Gizmo developer)
Just a heads up. I will be receiving a 1.5mm and 2.0 mm upper deck. I am excited to try and post up my reviews. The upper deck is being made by CristianTabush (RSD/ Gizmo developer)
