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Old 08-23-2019, 11:19 AM
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and all the really matters is all of us true blue fans are getting a new car soon!
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51637 TRF420 3×25/22mm Suspension Shaft (2 Pcs.) *<—— moving away from 2.6mm outer suspension shaft?*

I always wondered why Tamiya used a 2.6mm.. the TA04 has 3mm if my memory is not failing me.. they switched Monday in TA05 /TRF415*
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Solid changes it seems, but nothing earth shattering. I guess they'll be leveraging the new suspension mounts as they don't list new ones. Should make for an all around decent car.
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Earth shattering is what your looking for? Hmm how about mid motor layout? Oh wait we went away from that after TA05 only to return to it now... LOL.. but why?

Pretty simple.. they have run out of ideas and want to find a way to make more $.

Notice that no single brand has come up with an actual mid motor kit.. they’re all conversions? They all know they’re just pushing a fad that’s why.

Earth shattering is what Awesomatix and Serpent came up with, in their shock design and arms design.. but the kits remain essentially the same.

At this point the changes from Gen 1 to 2 etc are minuscule.

The TRF420 won’t turn the TC world upside down, however it is a good answer to the “self proclaimed know it alls” that there will be no more TRF cars.

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I think that TRF will continue to churn out cars. If not just for the simple club racers and those that are racing in any sort of Tamiya (Cup) Series. And having owned and raced an TA05R (which I enjoyed) I hope that they not only are following the latest TC Trends but perhaps come up with a new ideas along the way.
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Old 08-24-2019, 12:51 AM
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Ta and tb chassis are for innovative ideas while trf follows the tried and Ture formula. It is not a bad strategy.
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Tamiya is rather following a new strategy now, revising and refining all parts, which are the same for over 10 years. Look at the new suspension blocks, light weight parts etc. I bet, the new TRF420 suspension parts will be similar to the new XRay design.

For me, it's a logical step, because there are no real 'earth scattering' chassis/layout concepts anymore...except you have the intention to copy everything from other brands.

A single belt TRF was for me the last innovative logical step, a TA07MS in a refined way, if you will. It will not come. But now you have the chance to get all the new upgrades for it too.
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Originally Posted by Tom1977 View Post
Tamiya is rather following a new strategy now, revising and refining all parts, which are the same for over 10 years. Look at the new suspension blocks, light weight parts etc. I bet, the new TRF420 suspension parts will be similar to the new XRay design.

For me, it's a logical step, because there are no real 'earth scattering' chassis/layout concepts anymore...except you have the intention to copy everything from other brands.

A single belt TRF was for me the last innovative logical step, a TA07MS in a refined way, if you will. It will not come. But now you have the chance to get all the new upgrades for it too.
Put a TRF badge on the TA07MS without changing a thing and it's exactly what you described.
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Put a TRF badge on the TA07MS without changing a thing and it's exactly what you described.
Yes basically it's a TRF. But it's not promoted as one.
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Originally Posted by gigaplex View Post
Put a TRF badge on the TA07MS without changing a thing and it's exactly what you described.
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Originally Posted by Tom1977 View Post
Tamiya is rather following a new strategy now, revising and refining all parts, which are the same for over 10 years. Look at the new suspension blocks, light weight parts etc. I bet, the new TRF420 suspension parts will be similar to the new XRay design.

For me, it's a logical step, because there are no real 'earth scattering' chassis/layout concepts anymore...except you have the intention to copy everything from other brands.

A single belt TRF was for me the last innovative logical step, a TA07MS in a refined way, if you will. It will not come. But now you have the chance to get all the new upgrades for it too.
Similar to when Tamiya (TRF) released the 414, then out of that we got the Xray T1 and Corally C4.... then recently Yokomo came out with their version of the T4.... TC cars are getting to their most refined point.

Either way, whatever comes out, will be nice to see. If anything for me, its interesting to see what parts are revised, so I can update my Exotek Evo 6! I also find it nice that they are still churning out cars, rather than having just shut the operation down.
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Simply...... TRF420..... Can't wait to see it!!
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Full TRF420 product info:
https://kentech.wordpress.com/2019/0...-product-info/

More on all separate parts:
https://kentech.wordpress.com/2019/0...-product-info/

...and TRF419 Suspension Upgrade Set:
https://kentech.wordpress.com/2019/0...n-upgrade-set/
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thanks, for the insight
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Originally Posted by kentech View Post
New gear diff pulley and case parts not only provide a weight savings of 1.5g, but also promise even less oil leakage
So they're not promising no leaks, just less leaks
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