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Old 02-03-2020, 06:55 AM
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I had the same problem.
1. Time to get new tires. - Use SXT minimally. 3 min soak max and wipe off. This will slow the bloat, but not eliminate it. Break tires in with SXT on a rag and a drill. "Smoke em"
2 Use the lower hole on the arm. If you do this you will need to flip the ring that adjust the spring rate.
3 Just run at 6mm and take out some rear toe. I usually replace the tires when grip comes up so much that I cannot drive effectively. It seems that worn VTA tires have more grip than new. I do not find rear as problematic as front.
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Old 02-03-2020, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ryan391 View Post
I had the same problem.
2 Use the lower hole on the arm. If you so this you will need to flip the ring that adjust the spring rate.
I don't run VTA but it's always good to learn...

"spring rate" - can you explain?

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Old 02-03-2020, 08:24 AM
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On another note - do you guys have a quick fix to remove slop from the alloy-alloy steering assembly? Most of it seems to be in the bellcranks-to-bearing assembly... Not very Luxury Premium if you ask me

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The kit comes with a spacer for that. There's an aluminum option as well. I'm using the plastic ones that came with the kit and don't have any of that. Or are you referring to the steering plate bearings?

On a personal note, I think removing a lot of the play in the car makes it drive a little funny. I prefer the little bits of play here and there.
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Originally Posted by Lonestar View Post
I don't run VTA but it's always good to learn...

"spring rate" - can you explain?

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He means the collar on the shock where you adjust your ride height. flip it upside down and you can adjust it further down the shock body.

I've been using the SLP shocks on mine with the lower holes on the arms. Really liking how it feels on the tracks I run at.
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Old 02-03-2020, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Carnage9270 View Post
He means the collar on the shock where you adjust your ride height. flip it upside down and you can adjust it further down the shock body.
Ok thanks - still confused about spring rate tbh...
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Originally Posted by Carnage9270 View Post
The kit comes with a spacer for that. There's an aluminum option as well. I'm using the plastic ones that came with the kit and don't have any of that. Or are you referring to the steering plate bearings?

On a personal note, I think removing a lot of the play in the car makes it drive a little funny. I prefer the little bits of play here and there.
Thanks - I'm talking about the two alloy bellcranks being sloppy on their steering posts (and sloppier than the plastic parts actually, the bearings float in the alloy arms it seems as opposed to being a bit more snug in the stock plastic parts.

Agree with some slop being needed - there is just too much on my luxury premium's machine steering imho...
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Glue them in with a dab of Permatex.
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Not using the correct term, but the ring you turn on the shock to adjust the spring.
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Glue them in with a dab of Permatex.
Glue them, really?!?
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On another note

Got to love how this thing is balanced just by being symmetric on the spring collars


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Originally Posted by Lonestar View Post
Thanks - I'm talking about the two alloy bellcranks being sloppy on their steering posts (and sloppier than the plastic parts actually, the bearings float in the alloy arms it seems as opposed to being a bit more snug in the stock plastic parts.

Agree with some slop being needed - there is just too much on my luxury premium's machine steering imho...
yeah, the kit comes with 2 plastic spacers that go in between the 2 bearings. Should take all the slop out.
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I tried lowering the shock at the tract, but time was not with me. I found the shocks to short because of they would let the arms hit the droop screws.
So you lengthen the shocks out? Also would the new shock towers help the problem since they are 3mm lower?
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Originally Posted by Carnage9270 View Post
yeah, the kit comes with 2 plastic spacers that go in between the 2 bearings. Should take all the slop out.
whoopsie, I had forgotten to take these out of the plastic bellcranks when I replaced them by the alloy ones... Thank you!!! that might not fix all the radial slop but it should at least remove some of the axial one...

Thanks again for the reminder

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Originally Posted by Lonestar View Post
whoopsie, I had forgotten to take these out of the plastic bellcranks when I replaced them by the alloy ones... Thank you!!! that might not fix all the radial slop but it should at least remove some of the axial one...

Thanks again for the reminder

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I also glue the bearings into the alu bellcranks. I use a small amount of blue threadlock (loctite) on the outer edge of the bearing. Gets rid of the play, but you can still remove the bearings when needed.
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