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Old 12-07-2002, 12:24 PM   #1
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I was readin a issue of RC Car Action when I came across a Pro-Line Racing ad. I noticed that alot of the bodies would fall under the "GTS" classification. So I said to myself "SELF! Maybe you could get a movement going for a 1/10 Spec GTS sort of class on the national scale. Any thoughts ideas, possible rules, criticisms, etc. can be posted here.
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Here is an email that I sent to Fred Hohwart, ROAR Administrator:


To whom it may concern:


My name is BJ Williams. I recently became a ROAR member (waiting on my card), but I had an idea while I was thinking one day. With Pro10 having been excluded from championship competition, I started thinking about ways to boost attendance at ROAR onroad events (and maybe bring about the return of Pro10 to the spotlight).


I thought maybe if GTS bodies and pan sedan chassis were used and some sort of spec rules were drawn up, you could have a "sportsman"-type class at the nationals. It would draw alot of the average Joe Schmoe racers out to the events, which Im sure youd love to appeal to. Its just a thought but maybe it could use some real consideration.



Thank you for your time


BJ Williams
Portsmouth, VA
ROAR Region 2



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Thanks for "thinking".

I forwarded your suggestion on to the Executive Committee.

Fred Hohwart, ROAR Administrator
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Old 12-07-2002, 02:44 PM   #3
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But for your perusal, here is an email from outgoing president T Rex Baldwin:

Hi BJ,

Welcome to ROAR!

We are honored to have you on board. I wish you many long hours of racing
fun.

Your suggestion is a good one. This topic has been tossed around for a while
now. The only problem with this is with what we (ROAR) are supposed to be
doing with our membership's moneys.
ROAR's goal is to promote and regulate this sport. We are committed to
furthering the general interest of those engaged in the sport.
The actual development of classes to race has not been one of ROAR's
purposes. Our job is to concentrate on producing racing events throughout
North America as well as the strict regulation via rules, generic vehicle
specifications and procedures. We will also always have a delicate balance
with our industry's needs and the end user's needs. So, the classes we
actually support have been those that have become widely popular, have
chassis, bodies, motors and batteries that are available from more than one
manufacturer, are used by ROAR clubs and tracks in North America and need regu
lation...

The Pro10 class was popular at one time. There is still more than one
manufacturer capable of producing this vehicle... But, there is not the
desire from manufacturing or by the consumer for this vehicle. This is true
worldwide.

For personal racing, make up the class. The specifications we have on A-4 &
A-8 for the on-road 10th pan and 10th oval vehicles may help. I believe most
of the 'narrow' chassis vehicles meet the other general specifications &
requirements given here. It may be as simple as developing another width for
the 10th scale 'box' and go play. Perhaps only the finding of a selection of
narrow GTS bodies could be an issue. Perhaps the Pro10 will become popular
again...

Have fun, race your Pro10 BJ, and thanks for your e-mail.

T. Rex Baldwin
President, ROAR
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BTW, after a little digging, here are the bodies that I know of that are of the "GTS" classification (at least on the RC level, if I happen to have forgotten any please mention them) :

Pro-Line

Ferrari FX
Ford GT40
TVR Speed 6
Ferrari F360 Modena
Corvette C5R
Aston Martin DB7

HB (Hot Bodies):

Mercedes CLK GTR
Porsche 911 GT1
McLaren F1 GTR
Ferrari F50
Acura NSX


HPI Racing
Lotus Sport Elise
Saleen Mustang
Nissan Skyline GTR
Nissan Silvia
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Build up the pan car racing in your area and hope it spreads to others. I just got a 10l3t and love it, it's the perfect companion to my 12l3. Around here its an open 10th pan class because people have a wide range of cars and motors and bodies. That makes it so that more people can run; later on it might get regulated to more specific rules.
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It's good to see someone who is looking at other classes of racing besides 1/10 tourers.

What I would say is draw up a quite flexible set of rules and approach your local club to see if they would put on a heat if there is enough interest.

There are a lot of people who would be up for something a bit different. Go for it.
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Thanx for the vote of confidence John, and gacjr. Im workin on some skeleton rules as we speak. But suggestions would be encouraged.
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Well, for now I would go with an open format. Accomidating reg Pro 10 width cars to the new 190 pan cars. Regular ROAR/NORRCA Pro 10 rules. 6 cells stock motors. Whats the minimum weight 42 oz(?). Ask around to see if people have nascar/gtp/touring car bodies and decide to use just one or go open....around here theres a Bolink legend, 10L2's, 10L3's with GTP bodies, I ran a New Beetle the first race, but this week a regular touring body.
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I really think that GTS would be the ideal way to go. Im gonna email the guys at NORRCA today and see if I can get an idea like this to work as well
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Well think about this, a few years ago when the Chamelion motor came out oval guys started running them. They made classes for them at the local level, and the class finally migrated to the site of the following national championships. At the Nationals the host track has the option of running their own "hometown" class, some do, some don't think the turnout will be large enough. Some a the Nationals the turn ut for 19T spec oval was much higher than even for stock or mod oval, and especially truck oval. this kicked the rule makers in the butt and now we have a 19T spec class, and Nastruck is all but dead at all oval nationals, touring cars seem to be heading in that direction (19t spec)!

Now there are alot of if's and maybe's in the theory, but if you can get they class to take off, and it spreads then there is always a possibility that it could happen!!
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Well think about this, a few years ago when the Chamelion motor came out oval guys started running them. They made classes for them at the local level, and the class finally migrated to the site of the following national championships. At the Nationals the host track has the option of running their own "hometown" class, some do, some don't think the turnout will be large enough. Some a the Nationals the turn ut for 19T spec oval was much higher than even for stock or mod oval, and especially truck oval. this kicked the rule makers in the butt and now we have a 19T spec class, and Nastruck is all but dead at all oval nationals, touring cars seem to be heading in that direction (19t spec)!

Now there are alot of if's and maybe's in the theory, but if you can get they class to take off, and it spreads then there is always a possibility that it could happen!!
Well IMPACTPLAYR, its certainly worth a try! Im just happy I got a C10X for 66 percent less than you can get it from Superior Hobbies!
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