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Old 03-04-2006, 05:54 AM   #1
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Hello all,

MAN! What are the facts? I have bought 4 packs of IB3800's, and a Zero-6s discharger.

And in my reading, I see a lot of people saying "not to use trays down to 0.0v", and others saying yes to it? Also, what is the best use to this tray? Wait into the lights go out, and then remove? Or can I leave them past that?

My goal is to have long lifetime, but the best power. Basically EVERYTHING.

I am running mod motors mostly. I donít see me going to stock.

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From my experience... don't let the cells get below .9 (5.4 for pack) volts or you will lose runtime. If I wont run the pack for more than a week I put a little charge... 500 sec... in the pack. Other than that just equalize them to .9 before you charge.
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From my experience... don't let the cells get below .9 (5.4 for pack) volts or you will lose runtime. If I wont run the pack for more than a week I put a little charge... 500 sec... in the pack. Other than that just equalize them to .9 before you charge.
So would you say to get rid of the Zero-6s?

What do we all say?
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Reading form SMC site, they like the Integy 030 Tray. I person must tell you, using this discharge tray has done wonders for my 3600's
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I think more people are leaving cell to .9v per cell. Then dead shorting or .0v.

Time to get the Novak Smart Tray. If you have one you want to get rid of. Let me know.

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No. Definately use a discharge tray. With IB3800's take them off after the all the lights go out. After you have raced discharge your cells with a charger or bulbs or motor( whatever you want) down to 5.4v and then tray them.
If you use a discharge tray your cells should charge to 4200mah, all will last for a long time.
Definately use a discharge tray.
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Your discharge tray you have atm is good.
You don't need to get a exspensive Novak smart tray.
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No. Definately use a discharge tray. With IB3800's take them off after the all the lights go out. After you have raced discharge your cells with a charger or bulbs or motor( whatever you want) down to 5.4v and then tray them.
If you use a discharge tray your cells should charge to 4200mah, all will last for a long time.
Definately use a discharge tray.
So just use it intel the light go off. Is this taking the cells to 0.0v?

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The Integy 6s tray will go down to 0.0v and will not cutoff, so you won't want to use it unless you are there monitoring each cell's voltage and can unscrew them individually. The following trays will cut-off at a safe voltage:
LRP tray 0.6/cell
Team Teking Battery Doctor 0.7/cell slowly goes t0 0.5/cell after
Novak Smart tray adjustable
Team Wave Lightning tray adjustable
Much More CTX-D adjustable

there are a few others, but these are the easiest ones to get in the states. Also, the list goes from cheapest to most expensive.
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If you leave the pack on the tray just until the lights go out what are the chances of the cells actually being equalized with the zero-6 tray or any other tray without a specific cutoff? The Novak smart tray is a safe way to go with 3800's.
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If you leave the pack on the tray just until the lights go out what are the chances of the cells actually being equalized with the zero-6 tray or any other tray without a specific cutoff? The Novak smart tray is a safe way to go with 3800's.
See that is my real question. If I am waiting for lights to go out. That can not be a true equalization? Right?

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Only if the cells are kept at a set voltage after the lights go out. The Tekin tray gets you to .5 per cell, but can take a long time to get there. There are others as mentioned earlier by XrayFK, but I've only used the Novak and Tekin units. My expierence has been stay at .9 and you won't have any problems. When you start traying for very long you lose alot of runtime with 3800's. From what I've seen the Novak Smart Tray is safest bet for the average racer. You just need to push the button 2-3 times to get the cells equalized at .9 before charging.
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What I do to my IB3800 is that I use the Integy 030 to quick discharge the pack after a run until lights go out (usually take less then 2~3 minute), and then I put it on the Team Wave discharger until it equalize down to 0.9v.

So far I am having pretty good results from this.
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See that is my real question. If I am waiting for lights to go out. That can not be a true equalization? Right?

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You should be monitoring you tray at all times. What i do to ensure good equilization is i watch my tray, as soon as ONE light goes out, i unscrew the cell, wiat 2 seconds, screw it back in to see if it the light stays on. Most of the time light will flicker once and its done and i leave it unscrewed. This way, as you take out 1 cell at a time, it should be equilized.
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If i forgot to monitor the tray, and the cells go down to 0.0v, is that dead shorting?
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