Silver Can Motor Tips/Tricks
#556
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We are not stupid you don't get 25,000 out of a johnson legally. BTW that motor sounds to be about 19,200 - 19,800 I can tell in the pitch you have'nt even begun to hit the high winding sound yet. But its very nice of you to share with us though. I will give you an A for presentation A for thought and F for proper documentation and support findings.
#557
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Alrighty, i've read through pretty much the entirety of this thread and taken on board the most common 'voodoo tricks' to running in your johnson motor.
As it stands, the other lads in the class seem to poop all over me on the straights, and have just a tiny bit more torque as well. Since i was running no fan, and my motor was getting painfully hot due to overgearing, (burned one out in experimenting) and tight drive-belt most likley, i've gotten a fan, smaller pinions (aiming for an FDR around 4.5-4.8, since its apparently what other folks are using) i'm just trying to find the extra things that the other folks are doing, that i might not be - i reckon my racing line is improving, so now i'm hunting that extra bit of 'go'.
The point of my post though - I dont have a charger or motor management gear to run in my motor. What should i use to do it, in its place? Some batteries soldered together in a linear fashion? If anyone could shed some more light on the details of that - like just the same sub-c cells as what you'd use to power the car, or if this is even the right idea at all, it'd be much appreciated.
I've got a bunch of gear at hand to use, including a drill to try running-in as well.. I've got Team Orion Motor spray, Brasso, metho, turps, some thin oil (for a sewing machine i beleive)..
Just not sure what path of action to take from here on in, in seating those damn brushes right. I have two two-slot johnson motors - the sort with black 'endbells', one is more shiny on the can than the other, which i think a fella at the track mentioned one has softer brushes than the other (which i took note of).
As it stands, the other lads in the class seem to poop all over me on the straights, and have just a tiny bit more torque as well. Since i was running no fan, and my motor was getting painfully hot due to overgearing, (burned one out in experimenting) and tight drive-belt most likley, i've gotten a fan, smaller pinions (aiming for an FDR around 4.5-4.8, since its apparently what other folks are using) i'm just trying to find the extra things that the other folks are doing, that i might not be - i reckon my racing line is improving, so now i'm hunting that extra bit of 'go'.
The point of my post though - I dont have a charger or motor management gear to run in my motor. What should i use to do it, in its place? Some batteries soldered together in a linear fashion? If anyone could shed some more light on the details of that - like just the same sub-c cells as what you'd use to power the car, or if this is even the right idea at all, it'd be much appreciated.
I've got a bunch of gear at hand to use, including a drill to try running-in as well.. I've got Team Orion Motor spray, Brasso, metho, turps, some thin oil (for a sewing machine i beleive)..
Just not sure what path of action to take from here on in, in seating those damn brushes right. I have two two-slot johnson motors - the sort with black 'endbells', one is more shiny on the can than the other, which i think a fella at the track mentioned one has softer brushes than the other (which i took note of).
#558
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Well the video as i promise, anyway this is the 24000 rpm motor at 7.2volts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX0teQd4cUo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX0teQd4cUo
#559
Well the video as i promise, anyway this is the 24000 rpm motor at 7.2volts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX0teQd4cUo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX0teQd4cUo
it awesome!
#560
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Well the video as i promise, anyway this is the 24000 rpm motor at 7.2volts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX0teQd4cUo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX0teQd4cUo
#561
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Really those readings mean absolutely nothing.... there is only one place to proove a good motor - on the track.
i bet if you put a load on this motor it would be crap!!
Mike
i bet if you put a load on this motor it would be crap!!
Mike
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Well the video as i promise, anyway this is the 24000 rpm motor at 7.2volts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX0teQd4cUo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX0teQd4cUo
#563
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Anyway this motor have aready being proven on the track by alot of drivers.
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See pic below.
No cranko, no cheato, just hard work gained from 20 years of running these things.
No cranko, no cheato, just hard work gained from 20 years of running these things.
#565
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Hi,
2volts at 12 hrs? clockwise rotation break in?
ty..
joel
2volts at 12 hrs? clockwise rotation break in?
ty..
joel
#566
Alrighty, i've read through pretty much the entirety of this thread and taken on board the most common 'voodoo tricks' to running in your johnson motor.
As it stands, the other lads in the class seem to poop all over me on the straights, and have just a tiny bit more torque as well. Since i was running no fan, and my motor was getting painfully hot due to overgearing, (burned one out in experimenting) and tight drive-belt most likley, i've gotten a fan, smaller pinions (aiming for an FDR around 4.5-4.8, since its apparently what other folks are using) i'm just trying to find the extra things that the other folks are doing, that i might not be - i reckon my racing line is improving, so now i'm hunting that extra bit of 'go'.
The point of my post though - I dont have a charger or motor management gear to run in my motor. What should i use to do it, in its place? Some batteries soldered together in a linear fashion? If anyone could shed some more light on the details of that - like just the same sub-c cells as what you'd use to power the car, or if this is even the right idea at all, it'd be much appreciated.
I've got a bunch of gear at hand to use, including a drill to try running-in as well.. I've got Team Orion Motor spray, Brasso, metho, turps, some thin oil (for a sewing machine i beleive)..
Just not sure what path of action to take from here on in, in seating those damn brushes right. I have two two-slot johnson motors - the sort with black 'endbells', one is more shiny on the can than the other, which i think a fella at the track mentioned one has softer brushes than the other (which i took note of).
As it stands, the other lads in the class seem to poop all over me on the straights, and have just a tiny bit more torque as well. Since i was running no fan, and my motor was getting painfully hot due to overgearing, (burned one out in experimenting) and tight drive-belt most likley, i've gotten a fan, smaller pinions (aiming for an FDR around 4.5-4.8, since its apparently what other folks are using) i'm just trying to find the extra things that the other folks are doing, that i might not be - i reckon my racing line is improving, so now i'm hunting that extra bit of 'go'.
The point of my post though - I dont have a charger or motor management gear to run in my motor. What should i use to do it, in its place? Some batteries soldered together in a linear fashion? If anyone could shed some more light on the details of that - like just the same sub-c cells as what you'd use to power the car, or if this is even the right idea at all, it'd be much appreciated.
I've got a bunch of gear at hand to use, including a drill to try running-in as well.. I've got Team Orion Motor spray, Brasso, metho, turps, some thin oil (for a sewing machine i beleive)..
Just not sure what path of action to take from here on in, in seating those damn brushes right. I have two two-slot johnson motors - the sort with black 'endbells', one is more shiny on the can than the other, which i think a fella at the track mentioned one has softer brushes than the other (which i took note of).
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Hi remember me I was usually on the front page.
#570
Hey guys,
I am New to the forum, and greatly inexperienced in electric racing.
I just bought a Mini, I broke in the motor using the water method.
The thing is much faster in reverse then forward. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
I assume this has been covered; a good link would be appreciated
I am New to the forum, and greatly inexperienced in electric racing.
I just bought a Mini, I broke in the motor using the water method.
The thing is much faster in reverse then forward. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
I assume this has been covered; a good link would be appreciated