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Old 10-16-2008, 01:41 AM   #1066
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Hey all,
to run my silver can 540j motor in, all I do from the box, is oil the bushes 1st, run the motor at slow rpm slowly building rpm till at full rpm in the space of about 1 minute.
I have had good success in 3 classes ( stock touring, mini, tt01) with this method.
Currently leading points series for tt01 and mini.
stock touring, I am in the top 8 out of 31 cars, granted my skill level is not as good as the racers that have raced for years.
this is my 1st year compeditive racing, 3rd year in total.

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Old 10-17-2008, 06:50 AM   #1067
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Hi guys can i get some advice regarding gearing my TRF 415 MSX MRE, i'm currently using a 102T spur on it, what would be the best pinion or gear ratio i could use for a track that has a long backstraight and technical inside the track for a silvercan class racing, all inputs would be highly appreciated. other info is that i am using front spool
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Hi guys can i get some advice regarding gearing my TRF 415 MSX MRE, i'm currently using a 102T spur on it, what would be the best pinion or gear ratio i could use for a track that has a long backstraight and technical inside the track for a silvercan class racing, all inputs would be highly appreciated. other info is that i am using front spool
I would start in the 90/88 spur and 42/43 pinion area.

It depends on the tracksize, how wide your lanes are and how much speed you can carry. If you cannot carry much speed through the infield you might have to go higher on the spur. Usually 5.0-4.6 FDR is pretty good on bigger tracks.
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Old 11-01-2008, 05:43 AM   #1069
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Hey Doc,

How about some news, it's been a long time since you wrote here!




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Old 11-01-2008, 06:46 AM   #1070
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Not much to report, except that the Tamiya USA TCS series will use silver can motors for all but one of their classes in 2009, and that the 540J #53689 will be the only legal TCS event silver can motor- no more four vent cans

Needless to say, advance orders for Red Dots have been pouring in from guys who want to make sure they have at least one for each class they are entering. There will be fewer available this year because I made a deal with my wife to restrict the number produced each month- last year was just crazy.

Oh, and one other thing- Mabuchi has changed the motor style in their latest dull grey can motors- the ones included with the latest TT01 kits. It no longer has the white restrictor cap on the armature. We never had much luck with the older dull cans, so far have not been able to do much with these either.
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Old 11-07-2008, 07:41 AM   #1071
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I find that bizare, my friend just bought a TT01 and it came with the 53689 chrome Jonhson that is shown on the Tamiya site.

I also saw a chrome Jonhson with black & white wires, what the hell is that?

Also I found a major problem with my batteries, out of 6, I had only 1 good one

so no wonder I had problems with the red dots motors I ordered.

Batteries experience I don't got so I had them checked out by a pro, and that is the results I got.

Bought 2 batteries yesterday and the motors I put aside suddenly were a lot faster.

I will contact you later to give Red Dot power another try.

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Old 11-07-2008, 10:55 AM   #1072
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Huh. Don't know how the Canadian TT01's could be all that different from the ones we get in the USA, but obviously they are. We've got a new class down here that we are running regionally and it uses the TT01 chassis. The older ones come with the gray cans with the white doohickey inside, and the new ones come with the gray can without the doohickey. Have not yet personally seen one with a #53689 in it out of the 8 or 10 new kits we've received, but that would be a plus given the new TCS rules.

Maybe because it's an entry level kit they just toss in whatever is on hand at the factory at the time...one guy did tell me he got a new four-vent motor in his kit last year!
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Old 11-07-2008, 11:27 AM   #1073
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maybe it was sitting on the shelves for a while???
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:03 PM   #1075
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For anyone who's interested, the last batch of Red Dot silver can motors to be produced for 2008 is shipping this week. I've received a lot of inquiries over the past couple of weeks, so if you want one (they also make a nifty holiday present!) it would be best to speak up NOW before they are gone. In fact, the smart guys have prepaid - you might want to do the same to ensure you get one before next year.

Despite the financial meltdown and the drop of the dollar against virtually every other currency in the world, motors still cost only $45 each plus shipping ($8 within the USA for one or two motors, $10 for three or more; international shipping is quoted on request). I prefer PayPal, and my PayPal id is [email protected] as my e-mail addy.

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Old 11-19-2008, 05:29 AM   #1076
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Thanks to everyone for the OVERWHELMING response!
At this time we are sold out and will not be shipping any more Red Dot motors until after the first of the year.
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Old 11-19-2008, 04:42 PM   #1077
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Whats a Red Dot?

Is that something you put on you forehead? (and pray 4 it to break-in)
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is it the 7-up dot? (you dip your motors in 7up)
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Old 11-20-2008, 01:30 AM   #1078
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Whats a Red Dot?

Is that something you put on you forehead? (and pray 4 it to break-in)
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is it the 7-up dot? (you dip your motors in 7up)
A silver can that has had every thing done to it that helps its speed
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:54 AM   #1079
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So after reading this thread a few months back i got my own RPM tester and 2 new silver cans.

At the start the motor did 16,000rpm, 1.09 amps at 7.2volts

I then submerged the whole can in jar of coke zero for around 20mins at 1v checking the brushes every few mins. I then sprayed the motor with a motor spray and oiled the bearings.

At the end the motor was doing 17,100rpm, 1.22amps at 7.2volts

I am by no way an expert so any comments would be appreciated.

(now to decide which way to do the second can)

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What voltage was this testd at? 7.2? If so....I'd say you have at best a mediocre (sp) motor....But I don't judge my motors until they have at least a full days racing on them. I would race the snot out of it for a day and retest it warm. If you can get around 19500-20000 at 7.2 that should be a pretty decent motor. All my good motors run around 19-21000 with really good torque.
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So after reading this thread a few months back i got my own RPM tester and 2 new silver cans.

At the start the motor did 16,000rpm at 1.09 amps

I then submerged the whole can in jar of coke zero for around 20mins at 1v checking the brushes every few mins. I then sprayed the motor with a motor spray and oiled the bearings.

At the end the motor was doing 17,100rpm at 1.22amps.

I am by no way an expert so any comments would be appreciated.

(now to decide which way to do the second can)
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