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Old 12-29-2006, 01:53 AM   #301
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one time i applied a chrome polish to the outside of the silver can, and it was beautiful! it looked looked like a mirror! so then i put it on the dyno and got 200 extra RPM out of the motor!!! i couldn't believe it.....has anyone else done this?
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Old 12-29-2006, 09:21 AM   #303
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If you were allowed to take the motor apart, how about serrating the comm or the brushes? Maybe that would help?
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Just a very old, very well broken in, very well maintained four hole motor. What I call a 'Genetic Mutant'. Buy enough of them and you eventually come across one or two. Properly cared for, they will last for several seasons.

Unfortunately, that particular little monster turned its final wheel at Aliso in July last year Troy may remember the armature because I brought it over to show him- it was the one with two black roasty sections on it and the copper peeling off of the comm. Sad.
I completely agree with Doc's "Genetic Mutant" theory. Seems like about 1 in every 20 or so motors is significantly better than the rest. Maybe it is even less than 1 in 20. Most of the motors are pretty equal after break in, a classic bell curve.

Sorry to hear that little monster bit the dust Doc, but at least I can now recall the thugs before it was too late.

I too had a couple of the little monsters, and hung on to them for big events, but alas they both bit the dust last year at Trackside's TCS race. I think I have had a total of 3 or 4 of these in 12 years of racing. My son thought it was something I was doing wrong to them to make them go bad, but alas, their time had just come to an end. You can typically tell when they are at their end, as while their RPM will increase a bit more, the low end power drops off precipitously, and if you shake them they rattle (the armature moves so much back and forth in the can).
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Old 01-04-2007, 02:40 AM   #305
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If you were allowed to take the motor apart, how about serrating the comm or the brushes? Maybe that would help?

hmmm... serrating the comm, that sounds interesting, kinda like the opposite of truing the comm...

if you open a sealed motor, you destroy it in the process so you cant put it back together.
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Old 01-04-2007, 03:58 AM   #306
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Old 01-06-2007, 02:39 AM   #307
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so is there any problem fitting the 23turn into the can ?
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Old 01-23-2007, 02:38 PM   #309
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Default Silver Can Noob - do you need capacitors on the motor?

Do you need to install capacitors on the silver can motor?

Help a noobie out brothers!

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Old 01-23-2007, 02:50 PM   #310
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i run them on mine and i think it helps
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dude we need a walk through on how to take the silver can apart and putting it back together as aussie sed there is a way to put it back together every time ive tried the damm thing will never go back together
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but why would u want to do that?
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Old 01-23-2007, 04:58 PM   #313
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Do you need to install capacitors on the silver can motor?

Help a noobie out brothers!

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it is not an absolute necessity, I have tried various combinations of capacitors and schottkey diodes and cant really see much difference.

others may find an advantage, but I think it will also depend on your esc...

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dude we need a walk through on how to take the silver can apart and putting it back together as aussie sed there is a way to put it back together every time ive tried the damm thing will never go back together
Aussie bob and the Professor race against each other and are just winding each other up.

You cant take a silver can apart without bending the can, which means that it will never go back together straight, and will never work properly even if you do manage to get it to go back, and even then, when it gets scrutineered it will be apparant that it has been tampered with, and you will end up getting DQ'd.

part of the silver can rules are that you cant open the motor. so the real question is "what can you do, WITHOUT opening the motor...?"
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dude we need a walk through on how to take the silver can apart and putting it back together as aussie sed there is a way to put it back together every time ive tried the damm thing will never go back together
well they r not made to come apart as u know but if u need to know I need to know how u took it apart ?
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