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Old 02-27-2006, 06:52 PM   #16
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Trust me if joel put the time that hara and rheinhart put in, he would still be competitive. Joels driving style and chassis setup are hard to beat. It would be cool to see him run 12th mod in Italy at the worlds
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Old 02-27-2006, 09:41 PM   #17
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Gotta agree with jeff on this one, he's a world class driver and can get up to worlds level if he puts time required to do so. Speaking of 1/8th I know he just broke the track record at rev.

As for comparing your times vs his old ones is not a good comparison. What everyone has to remember is he can run fast on a lot of classes even on his limited schedule. Just imagine if he just decided to run one class?
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Old 02-27-2006, 10:40 PM   #18
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Yeah, Larry's right...Cuffs, Latif and I raced with Joel week in/week out at Jackson R/C on asphalt for probably two to three months. I know for sure Jeff beat Joel at least once and I qualified a close 2nd behind him at the Trinity event in 19T last year.

He was super smooth and had a great knowledge of setup, but after I (and the others) got reacquainted with asphalt on rubber tires last year we were running almost a full lap faster than he had ran earlier in the season on the same layout with or without VHT.
if i know joel like i do he was probally running pano 3000 ultra metals. seriously though if joel put forth the effort that we do we would not stand a chance he is fast always its just not fair he has more talent than most could ever dream of having
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Old 02-27-2006, 10:41 PM   #19
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When I was a kid, so like... 18 years ago, I raced at a track in San Jose called "Innovations." I'm almost positive Joel was the race announcer at that track. I distinctly remember him saying "full gainer" during bad wrecks pretty regularly. Is anybody alive that remembers that track, or knows if Joel was in fact the announcer there? It was outdoor off-road, and had some kind of indoor slot car track.
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When I was a kid, so like... 18 years ago, I raced at a track in San Jose called "Innovations." I'm almost positive Joel was the race announcer at that track. I distinctly remember him saying "full gainer" during bad wrecks pretty regularly. Is anybody alive that remembers that track, or knows if Joel was in fact the announcer there? It was outdoor off-road, and had some kind of indoor slot car track.


I cant rember if Joel worked there or not but he was there when they put in that little carpet track I raced with Joel at the CAR club races overr in Cambel ( I think) back in the 80s. and a few nats back then I also have Film of the frist 1/10th worlds for pan cars 1992 and Joel just walks away from all of them. If Joel put his mind to ot he would be right in the hunt of any class he enters. some oldschooler still do well just look at Mike Blackstock he still on top
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Who here thinks we should get Joel "Magic" Johnson out of retirement and race for one more time!

Wouldnt it be great to watch "Old School" Vs "New Age" racers compete against each other! Joel vs Rehinhard. Now that would be a race to watch.

We should drum up some support to get Magic out and race for one more time maybe at an event like the upcoming Worlds.

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No...what would be cool is too see both drivers in their prime race against each other....that would be something.
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Old 02-28-2006, 06:35 AM   #22
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if i know joel like i do he was probally running pano 3000 ultra metals. seriously though if joel put forth the effort that we do we would not stand a chance he is fast always its just not fair he has more talent than most could ever dream of having
No, Joel wasn't running Panasonic UltraMetals, Den.

In any case, he was amazing to watch--gotta be one of the smoothest drivers I've ever seen. His line seemed to vary less than inch from lap to lap.

Cool guy to chat with too...always willing to help guys at the track with questions.
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Old 02-28-2006, 08:23 AM   #23
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Old 02-28-2006, 08:47 AM   #24
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Next year at this time we will need a "Bring back Matt Francis" thread.

Good luck to him!

BTW, Marc's last name is spelled "Rheinard"
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Old 02-28-2006, 08:49 AM   #25
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No disrespect to Joel, but we need our lifer stock drivers to step up and run mod. Guys that show they can run with the big boys, but dont....


That will help the US in worldwide racing competetiveness.

Now that would be some "Magic"

Some truth to this comment, but I think the biggest difference between our fast guys and the fast Europeans is the commitment. Look at some of the big US names at the Snowbirds a couple weeks ago. If they spent as much time prepping their cars as they did getting wasted and playing with their BB guns, they'd be just as fast. Its just a different mindset "across the pond."

Look at Hara at the On-Road Nats in October. I wonder how many of Tampa's Adult Entertainment establishments he visited that week compared to the rest of the U.S. Drivers.
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Old 02-28-2006, 12:16 PM   #26
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Thanks for the support and for even bringing up this subject. I'll be making a few other 1/8th events this year so we'll see if I can still put it in the A Main at a national event and or win one. I have a lot to learn with the .21 engines, but I kept pace with Shimo this weekend at Revelation and set the track record with the first 22 lap run ever at the track. Bottom line, I'm having a great time running 1/8th, which I always wanted to do, and promoting the Kyosho brand in the process. Being Vice President doesn't leave a lot of time for racing activities, but I'll keep it up as long as I feel competitive and as time permits.

It's been fun reading all the posts and I'll see what I can do give you guys more to talk about!

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Thanks for the support and for even bringing up this subject. I'll be making a few other 1/8th events this year so we'll see if I can still put it in the A Main at a national event and or win one. I have a lot to learn with the .21 engines, but I kept pace with Shimo this weekend at Revelation and set the track record with the first 22 lap run ever at the track. Bottom line, I'm having a great time running 1/8th, which I always wanted to do, and promoting the Kyosho brand in the process. Being Vice President doesn't leave a lot of time for racing activities, but I'll keep it up as long as I feel competitive and as time permits.

It's been fun reading all the posts and I'll see what I can do give you guys more to talk about!

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Hi Joel,

Car engines are easy to setup. I have raced 1/10 gas onroad & 1/8 offroad! Ever tried to setup an engine for a hydro. They are a pain in the ass......pipe length, one needle set up, prop/strut depth etc
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Old 02-28-2006, 12:35 PM   #28
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Hey, Joel. It was a pleasure racing with you last year at Jackson. You're a class act and still have the "magic".
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Anyone doubting Joel's talents at any level obviously never got to see him drive when he raced all the time...heh heh

Be careful what you wish for, because if his schedule allowed for him to put the effort in that he used to, there would be one less position available on the front row for the current crop of drivers...

Magic: When we moved into our new place, I came across an "old friend" of yours...
Your EV10 you won the Nats with in '92 or '93...still with the "Procar2" Autographics liscence plate in tact. I kept that car, along with every motor we ever won a major event with..(that's ALOT of motors...)
Brings back fond memories, my friend...
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Joel was super smooth and had a great knowledge of setup, but after I (and the others) got reacquainted with asphalt on rubber tires last year we were running almost a full lap faster than he had ran earlier in the season on the same layout with or without VHT.
It probably helped you guys that batteries got better during that season (going from 3300 to 3700/3800), not to mention you guys were running the same cars that everyone else had with tons of track time and development. For the record, Joel won his last race with us, the Trinity trophy race at Jackson, by A WHOLE LAP to another JRXS in second place (to another guy with no motor or battery program to speak of). How's that for comparing apples to apples? We were, in no way, shape or form, faster than Joel.
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