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Old 02-25-2006, 06:25 AM   #16
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Funny thing about these thoughts...

I bought a couple of practice packs from a guy that uses a novak flatline on his IB's before everyrun. They still take a good charge and run perfectly on the track.
Hes telling me why I cant use a integy 30 amp discherger on IP's and explaining why I should use a smart tray so my batteries dont take so much abuse.
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Old 02-25-2006, 06:45 AM   #17
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Hes telling me why I cant use a integy 30 amp discherger on IP's and explaining why I should use a smart tray so my batteries dont take so much abuse.

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Old 02-25-2006, 12:51 PM   #18
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With my IB3800s, I have been just putting them on the 0-30, then charging them back up. I havent noticed any loss in performance. I just got 3 packs of the IP3800s and was hoping I could treat them the same. What is it going to really hurt as long as I pull them off as soon as the lights go off.?
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Old 02-25-2006, 02:24 PM   #19
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someones point was that ib/ip cells dont "like" to go below .9 volts, which was why they dont recommend the 030 - it does not have an accurate cut off.

I dont know if I really believe that the cells dont "like" going below .9 for the simple fact that I have second hand cells from a guy that religously goes to 0 on his IB's.. and theywork just fine.
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With my IB3800s, I have been just putting them on the 0-30, then charging them back up. I havent noticed any loss in performance. I just got 3 packs of the IP3800s and was hoping I could treat them the same. What is it going to really hurt as long as I pull them off as soon as the lights go off.?
The main thing that si going to be hurt by taking the IPs down so low is they will lose runtime with no gain in voltage or decrease in IR. This is only for the IP cell and that appears to be how it likes to be treated. I know that one matcher of IB recommends to use the 0-30 tray for all classes and other matcher of IB says to use the 0-30 for stock or 19t and a Novak tray for mod. It really depends on what works for you. I do know that the IP cells do lose runtime when they are droped below .9. I'm guessing over time the IBs would too but unless you run mod you would never really notice a drop of 20+ in runtime.
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Like Brian said, IP cell loose runtime conciderably when they go below 0.9. I tested it when they first came out and I lost a lot of runtime and the voltage did not go up like on a GP cell. So using a tray that does not go below 0.9 is the best for these cell.

XMS racer: It does not make the batterie that bad, if you run stock you won't really notice it. but even in 19t you can see a difference at the end of the race. As I said, I had couple of pack that had been deadshorted and they were not that bad they were still strong but the batteries I run that did not go under 0.9 have a lot more runtime and are running better.
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I dont have any of the IP's.. I was getting more at the comments of the IB's... I'm sorry I wasn't more specific!

I think one needs more then 4 hours of sleep to function.. I'm dead tired!
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I do run stock so you say I wouldnt notice a difference? I am so confused?
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I do run stock so you say I wouldnt notice a difference? I am so confused?
In stock you don't use the full capacity of the cell. Meaning you come off the track after a run with runtime left. Because you don't use this runtime you can lose 20 secs of runtime it won't affect your run or on track performance as you don't use that runtime when racing.
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Bottom line is the IP cells perform! They are a great battery and when taken care of will produce great power charge after charge. I have packs from the very first batch and they still work great. The latest batch has been outstanding so far as well. You will not be dissapointed if you use IP batteries.
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The only reason I was wondering is because my new sponsor only provides IP's and I didnt know how to take care of these cells.
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go to teampoleposition.com and you will find all the best maintenance advice from the guy who brought IP's to North America.

Who is your sponsor out of curiosity.......
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Austin, You will receive an IP3800 Maintenance Guide with your batteries. They are different than the IB or GP cells. IP's DO NOT like to be discharged down to 0. If you want to use your 0-30 make sure you watch it, and as soon as the lights start to dim take your pack off the tray. If the lights go off
you just lost a ton of run time trust me. You will have no problem using thes packs two times a day. Just make sure you give ample time for them to cool
2-3 hours.
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Do you have to let cool after each step? If I repeak right before a round, they are gonna get warm. Should I time this so they are cool before I run them? Or is the main wait between discharging and charging?
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