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Old 08-04-2019, 10:54 PM
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https://www.macksprings.com/leaf-spr...tem-is-better/

https://sandersonleafsprings.co.uk/l...-coil-springs/

https://www.carsdirect.com/aftermark...ing-suspension

Nope, there is nothing out there on this subject matter.
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... Back to the mid motor Gizmo Genesis build.

The car went together the best out of any car I've ever built. (Once I figured out how to finagle the top deck on... haha).

The car is completely built, balanced, and has electronics installed. Just need a bit of time on the set up station to finish it up for some track time.

I did end up adding about 100 grams of weight in total, I was able to put it all town the center line, which was nice. (this is with the solid alu chassis, and alu screws on top of the chassis).

I did opt to use the new sway bar mounts, and the new laydown style shock system. Overall SUPER pleased with the build, now I just have to wait 4 weeks to get it on a track...
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I would like to see lots of pics of your build
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Originally Posted by thecaptain View Post
... Back to the mid motor Gizmo Genesis build.

The car went together the best out of any car I've ever built. (Once I figured out how to finagle the top deck on... haha).

The car is completely built, balanced, and has electronics installed. Just need a bit of time on the set up station to finish it up for some track time.

I did end up adding about 100 grams of weight in total, I was able to put it all town the center line, which was nice. (this is with the solid alu chassis, and alu screws on top of the chassis).

I did opt to use the new sway bar mounts, and the new laydown style shock system. Overall SUPER pleased with the build, now I just have to wait 4 weeks to get it on a track...
Don't worry the top deck is a bltch on the ARC mid motor I built also. Just the way they are.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DavidNERODease View Post
I would like to see lots of pics of your build
Ill get some pictures today, or tomorrow at the latest.
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Thank you for these links, I learned a lot.
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Originally Posted by thecaptain View Post
... Back to the mid motor Gizmo Genesis build.

The car went together the best out of any car I've ever built. (Once I figured out how to finagle the top deck on... haha).

The car is completely built, balanced, and has electronics installed. Just need a bit of time on the set up station to finish it up for some track time.

I did end up adding about 100 grams of weight in total, I was able to put it all town the center line, which was nice. (this is with the solid alu chassis, and alu screws on top of the chassis).

I did opt to use the new sway bar mounts, and the new laydown style shock system. Overall SUPER pleased with the build, now I just have to wait 4 weeks to get it on a track...
I got mine mostly together this past weekend as well. Need to redo sway bars the new way mounted in the plastic ball cup directly in the new arms. Yes top deck is a hassle to get on and I of course took mine on and off about 20 times redoing stuff....lol
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Is there a way to fit the steering bellcranks from this car to the GZ2?
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Is there a way to fit the steering bellcranks from this car to the GZ2?
I believe you should be able to use the bellcranks on the gz2, post a picture of the bottom of the chassis to make sure the bell crank mounting holes are there.
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Originally Posted by thecaptain View Post
I believe you should be able to use the bellcranks on the gz2, post a picture of the bottom of the chassis to make sure the bell crank mounting holes are there.
Are they the awesomatix piece? I cant find them on the Gizmo website.
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I changed my carbon chassis GZ2 to the Awesomatix bellcranks, had to get a different servo plate from Christian to make it fit.
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Youll have to excuse my jelly bean colored car... Ill have all the same colored screws here soon. The new sway bar stand offs will look different than mine, but will have a similar result.







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Is running kingpin inclination on the front recommended?
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Originally Posted by DavidNERODease View Post
Is running kingpin inclination on the front recommended?
Neat feature, I'd run it all the time.

About the spring rate and angle, a linear spring can be made progressive if the angle of it in relation to the lower attachment point changes during stroke. That's what's happening more a pronounced way with the new parts, soft around center and stiffer on the end of compression stroke,thats why Christian says the AMX returns quickly to resting position, in reality it has extra help to return from roll to resting position from the spring mounting point change. On the gizmo and other cool over designs one has to rely on the angle change to create that effect.

Leaf vs coil is almost the same, a spring is a spring to the tyre but how you can package and use the spring rate change and even stroke range to your advantage is what matters. Leaf springs are interesting because you can package then longitudinal or transversal connecting single wheels or pairs like early 1960 F1 cars that relied 100% on mechanical grip *hint*.
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Originally Posted by DavidNERODease View Post
Is running kingpin inclination on the front recommended?
Before with the long arms we were running the ballstuds in the outer hole on the top and bottom. With the new arms, we opted to go with the outer hole on the bottom of the hub, and the top hole on the top of the hub. This is to create a wider track width, and a shorter upper camber link.

Does that answer your question?
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