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Old 02-19-2006, 10:55 AM   #16
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I found this to be the case I ended up going a couple of teeth on my spur first froma 116s 28p to a 114s 28p and finaly with a 114s and a 29p seemed to work well but I am going to try a 114s 30p next time I run the car and I may even try a different spring combo and I am even going to try the putnam brush combo's and a pair of 767 and then some f brushes. I dont have a motor dyno to test but I always say the best dyno is the track and it will take a few runs to get a combo that works best for me and I will wear a few motors out testing them but hey so far so good I am impressed with it so far.
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is this motor roar legal
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Old 02-19-2006, 11:10 AM   #18
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Not yet I dont believe I think accor is the the only sanctioning body that has approved it.
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Old 02-19-2006, 11:10 AM   #19
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when will it be legal
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Old 02-19-2006, 05:53 PM   #20
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Just ran one of these today thanks to my buddy who brought back some from the birds. I aligned the hoods, put purple and red springs with 767's and gained a 10th per lap and the motor didn't seem to fall off as much. The only guys that were even close were running there brushless 4300 systems and we all know those have more rip than any stock motor available. I did have to gear up three teeth to gain anything over my monster that was insanely good.
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Old 02-19-2006, 07:26 PM   #21
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what kind of numbers are you guys seeing on the pro labels . i ordered 4 pro's from stormerhobbies and all the #'s were like 20,000 rpm , 61 or 62 watts , and 94 to 99 on torque . did i get screwed or what ? . well anyways we tried running these with no success in offroad at the rcproseries race at Mccolloughs in PA . my buddy even had a 67 watter and no matter what any of us tried gearing them at they ran like piles . so i really don't see how they have more torque because every pro label i have is way worse then my worst pro label monster by far . and even after changing spings and trying out different brushes , hood alignment , polishing and the whole nine they are still junk
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Old 02-19-2006, 07:28 PM   #22
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I dont know what kind of gearing you use in off road but I would venture to say you would use the same gearing as a p2k2. If you dont gear up, they are slow. If you do, they are amazing.
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Old 02-19-2006, 07:41 PM   #23
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The CO27 doesnt rip out of the box. I got mine to 36k rpm. The only problem is it has a good amp draw but requires to be geared higher which, sometimes doesnt work for onroad because rollout has to be pretty much on.
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Old 02-19-2006, 07:47 PM   #24
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ok lets say on the track i run at i gear a monsetr at a 16 tooth pinion and a p2k2 at 17 or 18 . you're saying to gear the co27 at 18 to 19 .the highest i tried was 18 and it temped at 151 degrees with a 17 130 degrees and a 16 109 degrees
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what kind of numbers are you guys seeing on the pro labels . i ordered 4 pro's from stormerhobbies and all the #'s were like 20,000 rpm , 61 or 62 watts , and 94 to 99 on torque . did i get screwed or what ? . well anyways we tried running these with no success in offroad at the rcproseries race at Mccolloughs in PA . my buddy even had a 67 watter and no matter what any of us tried gearing them at they ran like piles . so i really don't see how they have more torque because every pro label i have is way worse then my worst pro label monster by far . and even after changing spings and trying out different brushes , hood alignment , polishing and the whole nine they are still junk
Its because you are going off of Fantom dyno numbers....those are WORTHLESS.... Dont even pay attention to the MAX fantom dyno numbers. You actually have to look at the time base data on the fantom to even get a number that will actually mean something.

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i agree with EA, fantom numbers are useless, no real dyno is an accelerometer, it needs a true load on it to give you real numbers, i have not tried one of these motors, i think ill just stick with my trusty old monsters, tuned by Team Pink
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are you saying trinity uses a fantom . because we dynoed them here on a competion electronics and the numbers were like the same
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i agree with EA, fantom numbers are useless, no real dyno is an accelerometer, it needs a true load on it to give you real numbers, i have not tried one of these motors, i think ill just stick with my trusty old monsters, tuned by Team Pink
You are going to want to pick one of these up...I dont care how good your monster is. I had a monster that was untouchable around here and the first co27 I picked up was as good in the first two heats and better when I went to a trailing edge cut brush.
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Yeah maybe at a very low amount of load. Stock motors really should be tested anywhere from 28-35 amps.

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Chris, how much are you cutting off the trailing edge of the brush? Also, what brushes and springs are you using?
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