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Old 02-17-2006, 11:02 AM   #1
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Default Tamiya TA-05 faster than MSX?

I kept read on some posts that some people prefer TA-05 over MSX, or even being faster. If you ask me this question few days ago, I would say "no way", but I don't have either car. What do you guys think? Especially those of you who have driven both car.
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not having an MSX, I can say that the TA05 is a VERY WELL balanced car indeed and is VERY competitive straight out of the box.
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I own a TA05 and a 415MS, the 415 is a faster, more adjustable car, but for a lot of people it can be very easy to get in over you head on setup with. The 05 is a very stable, forgiving, and easy to setup car so for a lot of people that translates to a better car, so that is why a lot of people prefer it. I myself use the 05 when I just can't get a setup down for the 415, but the 415 properly setup is a faster car for me. It all really comes down to personal perference and how good you are at setup. That being said the 05 is still a very capable car and with the proper hopups and setup can be very fast.
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I will agree with Groff on this one. TA05 is a nicely balanced car. I didn't get to race my 415 much last year. But I did race my EvoIV and a fully hopped up TA05. The 05 came to within 2 seconds of my best Qualifying time that I had done on my EvoIV and Yokomo BD. So the potential is obviously there.
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KilRuf, do you mean 2 seconds or 0.2 seconds? 2 seconds is a big difference per lap unless you are on a super large track?
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Last sunday racing:

Top cars were TA-05's - top notch drivers. 14.9-15.0's

Tuesday - 415 MSX - 14.7's
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I own a TA05 and a 415MS, the 415 is a faster, more adjustable car, but for a lot of people it can be very easy to get in over you head on setup with. The 05 is a very stable, forgiving, and easy to setup car so for a lot of people that translates to a better car, so that is why a lot of people prefer it. I myself use the 05 when I just can't get a setup down for the 415, but the 415 properly setup is a faster car for me. It all really comes down to personal perference and how good you are at setup. That being said the 05 is still a very capable car and with the proper hopups and setup can be very fast.
This post pretty much answers that question perfectly. Just about everyone who owns both says these same things.
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Last sunday racing:

Top cars were TA-05's - top notch drivers. 14.9-15.0's

Tuesday - 415 MSX - 14.7's
I like these kind of facts.... numbers are better than " I think "
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I reckon the only thing holding back the TA05 is it's weight to be honest, I know switching to a carbon chassis and topdecl, with the gearboxes fitted and drivetrain/motor mount, it only weight about 30g more than the stock chassis.
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It seems like to me if carbon fiber chassis, AL shocks, and CVD are necessary upgrades, then it's cheaper just to get a MSX. But right out of box, TA-05 does seem worth the money.
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I put my ta05 in the A main tonight 1`st time racing it. I qualified 4th 8 seconds behind the TQ. a Team trinity driver with all the best stuff including an x-ray car. I ran $25.00 Radio Shack batteries unmached 3300`s. The thing I see with the car is it is heavy and needs some help pulling out of the corners. I cant wait to get the carbon parts...............
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KilRuf, do you mean 2 seconds or 0.2 seconds? 2 seconds is a big difference per lap unless you are on a super large track?
2 seconds as in (for example) 16laps at 5:02 vs 16laps at 5:04.... That's overall time... not lap times... Basically the bottom line... not a single fastest lap....
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If you see how the Xenon Modified TA05s are going at the TITC race, they can and are very competitive, but not the best. 415MSX is still on top, but the TA05 isn't that far off it.
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To me, a car thats easier to find a setup for, has an advantage over a car that slightly faster once you find that elusive setup.

What do they always say...practice...practice...practice...

With a car thats easier to set up, your spending more time practicing, and less time wrenching.

So if you consider that the MSX can be slightly faster with the perfect setup, but the TA05 will get you more track time with an easier to find perfect setup. I'd say their pretty much even.

Also, a carbon fiber plate chassis isn't neccesary to make the TA05 compete at a level with the MSX, or other $400 cars.
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Yes but it will take some weight and flex off the car........
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Also, a carbon fiber plate chassis isn't neccesary to make the TA05 compete at a level with the MSX, or other $400 cars.
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