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Old 02-19-2006, 04:29 AM   #16
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so then, would a ta-05 (out of the box setup) be faster than a tc4 team with the same electrics in both?
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so then, would a ta-05 (out of the box setup) be faster than a tc4 team with the same electrics in both?
Bad question. You are comparing two completely different cars in terms of the way the deliver the power to the diffs (Belt versus shaft drive). With that said, never had a TC4 but my TA-05 would run consistently faster laps than my TC3.
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If you see how the Xenon Modified TA05s are going at the TITC race, they can and are very competitive, but not the best. 415MSX is still on top, but the TA05 isn't that far off it.
Probably more to do with the driver than the car...
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1 qualified ahead of Satoshi Maezumi! That's not a bad driver to beat, so I think a fair bit of it is car.
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If you see how the Xenon Modified TA05s are going at the TITC race, they can and are very competitive, but not the best. 415MSX is still on top, but the TA05 isn't that far off it.
I'm sure if we saw pics of those cars they were pretty modded up...

At that point and price why not just run the MSX or another car. The reason the TA05 is easy to drive or atleast feels that way is the soft chassis/flex masks some of your setup flaws.

The car is nice but I think ideally if they can make a TA05R for under $200 then it will be an awesome car.
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Think about this........ if the TA05 was better then the MSX why isnt Reinhard using the TA05
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You guys think the TA05 is faster than the TA04?
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You guys think the TA05 is faster than the TA04?
I think so I run better laps with my 05 than with my 04.
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one of the mag says the ta05 is easier to drive and more efficent due to its almost 50 50 power split...think of 4wd versus rear wheel drive car...however in actual life rear wheel drive dominates the track while 4wd wins in tricky conditions....will the ta05 beat the msx....WHY NOT?
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the answer is because its not the flag ship car...if hara uses the ta05 and reinhard the msx....dun think there be too much diff........porsche cayman vs 911.....lambo gallardo vs mercielago...the first is definately better but de tuned as not to hurt the flagship image.in short....endless discussion
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Both of the cars are 4wd, unless you don't include oneway, which still provide 4wd on power. In real race, rear wheel drive cars does seem to perform better on a onroad circuit. However, I can't recall any onraod races that allow 4wd and 2wd in U.S. I am not sure if most of the races that we seen here only allowed to run rwd or if 4wd is an option. European or Japanese touring cars may give the teams or manufactueres the option, but I am not sure.
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05 is fast but so is the MSX (probably more), i have been beaten by the odd 05 but i have beaten all the 05's in the field with my MSX on other days. It just matters what is happening on the day

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Both of the cars are 4wd, unless you don't include oneway, which still provide 4wd on power. In real race, rear wheel drive cars does seem to perform better on a onroad circuit. However, I can't recall any onraod races that allow 4wd and 2wd in U.S. I am not sure if most of the races that we seen here only allowed to run rwd or if 4wd is an option. European or Japanese touring cars may give the teams or manufactueres the option, but I am not sure.
BTCC, Audi entered some 4wd cars in the series, and they were totaly dominant until they were weight penalised, and a lot of weight at that.
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Yeah i dont think its a case of 2wd being faster than 4wd. Just that most rules dont allow 4wd...

Also most on road race cars are in some way based on a road car which is usually 2wd.

Open wheel formulas are always 2wd aswell. If and F1 car was 4wd im sure it would be faster.
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