T.O.P. Racing "Scythe" 1/10 EP Touring Car
#871
HPI Pro4 and Cyclone arms and uprights etc... work and work well.
#872
#873
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i would think they are... i have not had good luck with HPI steering blocks in the past.
although, i havent had the same problems on the TOP car. only breakage i have had on it was the rear hub, but nothing out of the ordinary.
i think he used the Xray parts because he was comfortable with their geometry and probably work better with the foam tires...
although, i havent had the same problems on the TOP car. only breakage i have had on it was the rear hub, but nothing out of the ordinary.
i think he used the Xray parts because he was comfortable with their geometry and probably work better with the foam tires...
#875
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could be... i didnt remember reading his post. the HPI setup has been good inb the past for me on rubber tires, tho. i dont run foam much at all...
im thinking there might be a TOP designed suspension on the horizon tho... im sticking with the std set till then, personally.
im thinking there might be a TOP designed suspension on the horizon tho... im sticking with the std set till then, personally.
#877
Ive been running 2 chassis and lately 3 and in over a year i have only broken the plastic upper bulk head bracket that holds the shock tower.
evrything else holds up well to the punishment it takes.
We run 6 cell, outdoors on asphalt.
evrything else holds up well to the punishment it takes.
We run 6 cell, outdoors on asphalt.
#878
Springs?
hey, does anyone know where I can find a spring lb's chart for the top springs or just the standard ones that come in the box?
#879
#880
#881
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As it stands I have changed springs away from kit springs 2 times since I have had this chassis. I wouldn't bother with option springs unless you race on low grip. Just tune with the swaybars. I run between 1.2-1.6mm with kit springs and always have plenty of speed.
#882
Here is the list of option and kit springs:
PS-S14500 Racing Spring 1.4x5.00 22.5mm 332gf/mm
PS-S14525 Racing Spring 1.4x5.25 22.5mm 308gf/mm
PS-S14550 Racing Spring 1.4x5.50 22.5mm 288gf/mm possible std kit spring
PS-S14575 Racing Spring 1.4x5.75 22.5mm 270gf/mm
PS-S14600 Racing Spring 1.4x6.00 22.5mm 254gf/mm
PS-S14625 Racing Spring 1.4x6.25 22.5mm 240gf/mm
PS-S15525 Racing Spring 1.5x5.25 22.5mm 437gf/mm
PS-S15550 Racing Spring 1.5x5.50 22.5mm 406gf/mm
PS-S15575 Racing Spring 1.5x5.75 22.5mm 379gf/mm
PS-S15600 Racing Spring 1.5x6.00 22.5mm 348gf/mm
PS-S15625 Racing Spring 1.5x6.25 22.5mm 341gf/mm
PS-S15650 Racing Spring 1.5x6.50 22.5mm 316gf/mm
PS-S14450 Racing Spring 1.4x4.50 22.5mm 392gf/mm
PS-S14475 Racing Spring 1.4x4.75 22.5mm 359gf/mm possible std kit spring
Kit spring p/n
P950-475 4.75 windings
P950-550 5.5 windings
PS-S14500 Racing Spring 1.4x5.00 22.5mm 332gf/mm
PS-S14525 Racing Spring 1.4x5.25 22.5mm 308gf/mm
PS-S14550 Racing Spring 1.4x5.50 22.5mm 288gf/mm possible std kit spring
PS-S14575 Racing Spring 1.4x5.75 22.5mm 270gf/mm
PS-S14600 Racing Spring 1.4x6.00 22.5mm 254gf/mm
PS-S14625 Racing Spring 1.4x6.25 22.5mm 240gf/mm
PS-S15525 Racing Spring 1.5x5.25 22.5mm 437gf/mm
PS-S15550 Racing Spring 1.5x5.50 22.5mm 406gf/mm
PS-S15575 Racing Spring 1.5x5.75 22.5mm 379gf/mm
PS-S15600 Racing Spring 1.5x6.00 22.5mm 348gf/mm
PS-S15625 Racing Spring 1.5x6.25 22.5mm 341gf/mm
PS-S15650 Racing Spring 1.5x6.50 22.5mm 316gf/mm
PS-S14450 Racing Spring 1.4x4.50 22.5mm 392gf/mm
PS-S14475 Racing Spring 1.4x4.75 22.5mm 359gf/mm possible std kit spring
Kit spring p/n
P950-475 4.75 windings
P950-550 5.5 windings
#883
Thanks for the info guys, on another note how much flex,twist,tweak what ever you call it do you get in the chassis I have a carpet flex and standard 2mm chassis an they seem to twist very easy unlike the xray use too any ideas on this?
#884
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Here is the list of option and kit springs:
PS-S14500 Racing Spring 1.4x5.00 22.5mm 332gf/mm
PS-S14525 Racing Spring 1.4x5.25 22.5mm 308gf/mm
PS-S14550 Racing Spring 1.4x5.50 22.5mm 288gf/mm possible std kit spring
PS-S14575 Racing Spring 1.4x5.75 22.5mm 270gf/mm
PS-S14600 Racing Spring 1.4x6.00 22.5mm 254gf/mm
PS-S14625 Racing Spring 1.4x6.25 22.5mm 240gf/mm
PS-S15525 Racing Spring 1.5x5.25 22.5mm 437gf/mm
PS-S15550 Racing Spring 1.5x5.50 22.5mm 406gf/mm
PS-S15575 Racing Spring 1.5x5.75 22.5mm 379gf/mm
PS-S15600 Racing Spring 1.5x6.00 22.5mm 348gf/mm
PS-S15625 Racing Spring 1.5x6.25 22.5mm 341gf/mm
PS-S15650 Racing Spring 1.5x6.50 22.5mm 316gf/mm
PS-S14450 Racing Spring 1.4x4.50 22.5mm 392gf/mm
PS-S14475 Racing Spring 1.4x4.75 22.5mm 359gf/mm possible std kit spring
Kit spring p/n
P950-475 4.75 windings
P950-550 5.5 windings
PS-S14500 Racing Spring 1.4x5.00 22.5mm 332gf/mm
PS-S14525 Racing Spring 1.4x5.25 22.5mm 308gf/mm
PS-S14550 Racing Spring 1.4x5.50 22.5mm 288gf/mm possible std kit spring
PS-S14575 Racing Spring 1.4x5.75 22.5mm 270gf/mm
PS-S14600 Racing Spring 1.4x6.00 22.5mm 254gf/mm
PS-S14625 Racing Spring 1.4x6.25 22.5mm 240gf/mm
PS-S15525 Racing Spring 1.5x5.25 22.5mm 437gf/mm
PS-S15550 Racing Spring 1.5x5.50 22.5mm 406gf/mm
PS-S15575 Racing Spring 1.5x5.75 22.5mm 379gf/mm
PS-S15600 Racing Spring 1.5x6.00 22.5mm 348gf/mm
PS-S15625 Racing Spring 1.5x6.25 22.5mm 341gf/mm
PS-S15650 Racing Spring 1.5x6.50 22.5mm 316gf/mm
PS-S14450 Racing Spring 1.4x4.50 22.5mm 392gf/mm
PS-S14475 Racing Spring 1.4x4.75 22.5mm 359gf/mm possible std kit spring
Kit spring p/n
P950-475 4.75 windings
P950-550 5.5 windings
http://www.hraefn.net/projects/spring_rates.php
#885
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Ok guys... Here is the spring list with both converted and "actual" rates
1.4x4.75 22.5mm 359gf/mm = ??.?lbs / 15.8lbs
1.4x5.00 22.5mm 332gf/mm = 18.6lbs / 17.1lbs
1.4x5.25 22.5mm 308gf/mm = 17.2lbs / 15.7lbs
1.4x5.50 22.5mm 288gf/mm = 16.1lbs / 16.0lbs
1.4x5.75 22.5mm 270gf/mm = 15.1lbs / 15.0lbs
1.4x6.00 22.5mm 254gf/mm = 14.2lbs / 14.4lbs
1.4x6.25 22.5mm 240gf/mm = 13.4lbs / 12.1lbs
1.5x5.25 22.5mm 437gf/mm = 24.5lbs / 19.9lbs
1.5x5.50 22.5mm 406gf/mm = 22.7lbs / 17.2lbs
1.5x5.75 22.5mm 379gf/mm = 21.2lbs / 18.4lbs
1.5x6.00 22.5mm 348gf/mm = 19.4lbs / 17.9lbs
1.5x6.25 22.5mm 341gf/mm = 19.1lbs / 16.5lbs
1.5x6.50 22.5mm 316gf/mm = 17.7lbs / 16.2lbs
All the actual rates where done on an integy spring dyno using an empty tamiya shock to mount and tested over 10mm of travel. The results I got where repeatable so the number are correct. Interestingly I got 15.2lbs actual reading from my kit springs which rate as 15lbs even from the spring kit. Must make sure I don't mix them up!
1.4x4.75 22.5mm 359gf/mm = ??.?lbs / 15.8lbs
1.4x5.00 22.5mm 332gf/mm = 18.6lbs / 17.1lbs
1.4x5.25 22.5mm 308gf/mm = 17.2lbs / 15.7lbs
1.4x5.50 22.5mm 288gf/mm = 16.1lbs / 16.0lbs
1.4x5.75 22.5mm 270gf/mm = 15.1lbs / 15.0lbs
1.4x6.00 22.5mm 254gf/mm = 14.2lbs / 14.4lbs
1.4x6.25 22.5mm 240gf/mm = 13.4lbs / 12.1lbs
1.5x5.25 22.5mm 437gf/mm = 24.5lbs / 19.9lbs
1.5x5.50 22.5mm 406gf/mm = 22.7lbs / 17.2lbs
1.5x5.75 22.5mm 379gf/mm = 21.2lbs / 18.4lbs
1.5x6.00 22.5mm 348gf/mm = 19.4lbs / 17.9lbs
1.5x6.25 22.5mm 341gf/mm = 19.1lbs / 16.5lbs
1.5x6.50 22.5mm 316gf/mm = 17.7lbs / 16.2lbs
All the actual rates where done on an integy spring dyno using an empty tamiya shock to mount and tested over 10mm of travel. The results I got where repeatable so the number are correct. Interestingly I got 15.2lbs actual reading from my kit springs which rate as 15lbs even from the spring kit. Must make sure I don't mix them up!