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Old 08-26-2007, 02:22 PM   #511
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Good going !!!

Last week at the regional champs i managed to get a 3rd in Superstock (27t) class and a 3rd in open stock ( Tamiya Johnson motor) class.
Need a bit more work and those 4200 packs
The car is just so smooth, i love it.
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:26 PM   #512
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Hey Patrick and Razor .. nice Results and good promotion for the Car

You can upload your Setup Sheets? (Jan van Steeg as well) It's interesting how you drive your car's and which setup way are you decided to go

Some News from Germany:
At the GERMANY SUMMER CHAMPS 07 in Hann. Münden a Scythe wins the Modified Class, one Scythe get the 3. Place in the 27t Class and in the Newcomer Class the Scythe finished at the first and second place

VERY NICE RESULTS, THIS CAR IS BEAUTYFUL...
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Old 08-27-2007, 05:18 AM   #513
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My startingpoint is:

40wt all around
1,2 mm 2 hole's pistons all around

front:
2,5 susp mount front
1 mm spacer's (arm level, no anti dive or kickup)
4 degree caster
turnbuckle front as long as possible with 1 mm spacer inside
shock position outside (up and down)
0,5 degree out
ackermann: arm long(2) and mid
one way(spool when it's raining and I love the rain)
5,5 1,4 mm spring

rear:

3 degree susp mount
1,5 mm spacer's (arm level, no anti squat)
turnbuckle: outside 1 and inside the most inside, outside 2 mm spacer and inside 0,5 mm
shock position: arm mid, tower outside
5,5 1,4 mm spring
thin anti roll bar
upright: back(only at the front spacers)

I like the handling of the car with this setup. But I'm still learning and trying to find faster setups.

and of course thanks to TOP and Hang Loose Racing Products for the support.
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Old 08-27-2007, 05:35 AM   #514
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Hey Guys,

Well done to all of you guys... good to see the Scythe getting some results it deserves!

After running the car, i've found a few similarities between other drivers set-ups different to mine.

Do you find the car works better with a heavier shock oil???... i've been running 35wt, but i've spoken to some drivers who say it performs better on 40wt or 50wt oils.... any input???

Also, who has done the Upper Deck mod???... and if so, was it a major change and beneficial?... or is it not that crucial?

Alot of the local guys here seem to run alloy upper bulkheads, and plastic lower bulkheads with a plastic motor mount base... how have you all got your drive trains set-up???

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Old 08-27-2007, 09:59 AM   #515
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With the stock piston's its beter to use thinker oil, but I'm using piston's with 2 holes of 1,2 mm. I don't like the handling with the stock piston's with 3 holes.

I'm using the upperdeck original. I don't try the mod

I'm using upper alloy blukheads becuase it give you more tuningoptions and I'm also using the plastic motormount base and the lower bulkhead are also from plastic. In stock I don't feel the need for aloy. I have all the aloy in my case, but use the plastic because of the european 1350 gram weightlimit
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:15 PM   #516
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With the stock piston's its beter to use thinker oil, but I'm using piston's with 2 holes of 1,2 mm. I don't like the handling with the stock piston's with 3 holes.

I'm using the upperdeck original. I don't try the mod

I'm using upper alloy blukheads becuase it give you more tuningoptions and I'm also using the plastic motormount base and the lower bulkhead are also from plastic. In stock I don't feel the need for aloy. I have all the aloy in my case, but use the plastic because of the european 1350 gram weightlimit
Heey Jan, congratulations on your 2nd Dutch National Stock title
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:45 AM   #517
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Hi

I have some Problems with the Ride height on my Scythe. I use Hot Bodies Springs and the Low Profile Shock Towers, with this Configuration i dont come under 6mm Ride Height.

Jimmy said me i can use Tamiya Plastic Coller's as well and Rayspeed Retainer ... or my own idea for an alternate, HPI Retainer ..

Have someone the same Problem and some Ideas for fixing that Problem?

Thanks!
OK, i have ordered now the HPI Retainers

With this Retainers and the Standard Scythe (Yokomo) Collars it works perfectly, i can get an Ride Height off 3mm ... Now i can use without any Problems 4,5mm - 5,0mm Ride Height

If somebody have the same Problems, i hope, this helps you too ..

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Old 09-04-2007, 10:59 AM   #518
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Does anyone have any info or feedback on the 33T/15T Modified Pulley Gear Set, the 33T/17T (ratio : 1.94) Drive Train Set and the 33T/17T Modified Pulley Set.
What are the pros and cons or reason behind changing these ???
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Old 09-05-2007, 05:07 AM   #519
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The modified pulleys seem to be a slighty different moulding, I don't honestly know how they are functionally different. To my eye the material looks a little stiffer but that could be just a production batch thing.

People tend to run bigger centre pulleys on other cars to get a slightly freer drivetrain, the larger pulley gives less belt wrap and also means you can run the belt a little slacker without fear of skipping. Bear in mind though that the higher internal ratio will make it trickier to get a super-low gear ratio for hot modified motors. The 33T/17T pulleys for the Scythe is not a part I have seen or tested though, I don't think they have come to the UK yet.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:39 AM   #520
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Where can you pick one of these sedans up at in the USA?
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:49 AM   #521
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Where can you pick one of these sedans up at in the USA?
contact EJ Evans here on rctech. he drives for Top Racing.. he'll be able to help you out.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:11 AM   #522
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The modified pulleys seem to be a slighty different moulding, I don't honestly know how they are functionally different. To my eye the material looks a little stiffer but that could be just a production batch thing.

People tend to run bigger centre pulleys on other cars to get a slightly freer drivetrain, the larger pulley gives less belt wrap and also means you can run the belt a little slacker without fear of skipping. Bear in mind though that the higher internal ratio will make it trickier to get a super-low gear ratio for hot modified motors. The 33T/17T pulleys for the Scythe is not a part I have seen or tested though, I don't think they have come to the UK yet.
Thanks for the info bud
got a reply from TOP as well.
It also helps with a smooth efficient drivetrain.Apparently the test drivers noted improvements in run time.
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Old 09-11-2007, 05:12 AM   #523
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How much better is the new Set-up sheet!... far better and easier to understand imo.

How many of you guys run a split top deck???

Does it help or just aid as an option.

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....oh... and anyone run the new motor mount?...

Rod... when shall you have some in [email protected]!
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Old 09-11-2007, 05:50 AM   #525
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Personally speaking, if you are running the plastic bulkheads then stick with the one-piece top deck, there is no issue with tweak, and running a split deck would add even more flex to an already soft car.

If you are running the alloy bulkheads and motor mount then I think a split deck would be worth considering, it gives the car a little bit extra flex, should be easier to tweak right if you are having a bit of a tweak issue, and also makes maintenance a bit easier too.

I'm running the car plastic with the full deck at the moment, works well on rubber tyres.

Haven't run the new motor mount, I believe the difference is that it includes a tensioner for the front belt and some heatsinking.

PS If anyone is looking for a stable setup on low/medium grip asphalt with some bumps let me know as I had the car running quite nicely at the weekend, might be worth a try if you are struggling a bit for consistency.
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