Understanding F1 Tuning: Let’s break it down
#196

How about the side spings and tubes on aspalt track whith medium grip?
The hardness of the springs and the oils used on the tubes.
How far would you go to get it to be stable, and on the other hand still have a good amount of steering.
I must use the Volante ETS tires.
Greetings, Joop Voorn.
The hardness of the springs and the oils used on the tubes.
How far would you go to get it to be stable, and on the other hand still have a good amount of steering.
I must use the Volante ETS tires.
Greetings, Joop Voorn.
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Guys: For those of you racing on pavement. Be sure to learn your esc and radio adjustments well. Things like "softening and punch" can be tuned so that the diff is tight and the car accelerates without wheel spin. Drive frequencies also help. For braking don't forget the ABS settings in your radio. All of these become important on slippery surfaces for getting the car launched and slowed down.
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Yes I'm an old dog that has learned new tricks!! The drag brake on your ESC is a very affective tuning mod--then you can use your transmitter to adjust for push braking too! I don't use the punch softening because I've got an educated finger--and there are times I want to really grab the throttle -- but those are all good tuning tips for asphalt where bite can be at a minimum!
As far as shock oils and springs those tend to be a little "Car" dependent to what chassis you are running. Find out what the local "Fast Guys" are using and go there first--then adjust to your needs!
I have an old Tekin Pro ESC--I have the "drag brake" set at MAX---then my push brake I adjust to where the rear wheels will NOT lock up or spin the car on corner entry. The trans then has an adjustment I can use on the fly too to alter how much push braking I get.
As far as shock oils and springs those tend to be a little "Car" dependent to what chassis you are running. Find out what the local "Fast Guys" are using and go there first--then adjust to your needs!
I have an old Tekin Pro ESC--I have the "drag brake" set at MAX---then my push brake I adjust to where the rear wheels will NOT lock up or spin the car on corner entry. The trans then has an adjustment I can use on the fly too to alter how much push braking I get.
#200

How about the side spings and tubes on aspalt track whith medium grip?
The hardness of the springs and the oils used on the tubes.
How far would you go to get it to be stable, and on the other hand still have a good amount of steering.
I must use the Volante ETS tires.
Greetings, Joop Voorn.
The hardness of the springs and the oils used on the tubes.
How far would you go to get it to be stable, and on the other hand still have a good amount of steering.
I must use the Volante ETS tires.
Greetings, Joop Voorn.
Quick way to see which direction to go: run the car, then pop the tubes off. If the car gets better, go lighter. If the car is worse, go heavier.
Springs, I would start on the soft end of the spectrum to start, but some of this will depend on the tire. You can kind of manipulate the rotation to stability ratio by going to lighter (rotation) or heavier (stability) oil with the same spring. Like wise, a stiffer side spring may have a more direct feel off center, but should be more stable feeling, until you go hard enough that car car starts to slide. In general, I like a softer spring and try to go heavier on the oil if you need to calm the car down, as well as add preload.
Cuda side spring method, aimed at carpet, but do the same thing on asphalt looking for rotation and /or stability:
A fast guy taught me how to play with the side sorings on my carpet car.
Start with medium stiffness spring just touching with car sitting at ride height then screw them down 2 turns preload.
Drive car, rear wheel lifting? Too stiff, back off spring preload 1 turn.
Still lifting? go to lighter spring and start again, 2 turns preload etc.
If/when front wheels lifting, side springs too light, go back the other way.
So basically, turning the preload no more than 2 turns up or down tells me when to go to a different spring
This worked well for me
Now when it grip rolls
it's both wheels lifting at the same time. 


Start with medium stiffness spring just touching with car sitting at ride height then screw them down 2 turns preload.
Drive car, rear wheel lifting? Too stiff, back off spring preload 1 turn.
Still lifting? go to lighter spring and start again, 2 turns preload etc.
If/when front wheels lifting, side springs too light, go back the other way.
So basically, turning the preload no more than 2 turns up or down tells me when to go to a different spring
This worked well for me
Now when it grip rolls




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How about the side spings and tubes on aspalt track whith medium grip?
The hardness of the springs and the oils used on the tubes.
How far would you go to get it to be stable, and on the other hand still have a good amount of steering.
I must use the Volante ETS tires.
Greetings, Joop Voorn.
The hardness of the springs and the oils used on the tubes.
How far would you go to get it to be stable, and on the other hand still have a good amount of steering.
I must use the Volante ETS tires.
Greetings, Joop Voorn.
Start with 100k in tube and Xray gold side springs.
These tires really need crazy setup

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I am somewhat new to F1, been racing it when I can for about 6 months. I've noticed that my driving style is soooo different than any other car that I've driven. It's all about nice swooping corners (so you can keep the speed up). Not so much of POINT AND SHOOT like 1/12 scale and TC. I don't really run any drag brake, just kind of "blip" the brake if needed, seems to slow the car down just enough to make the corner. Lately I've been running 2 degrees toe out also (1 degree per side), and checking it after every race, that has helped tremendously. Of course this is for the black carpet, I have never run the F1 on asphalt.
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Of course you need a Tamiya F1, TC, Mini, Euro truck, TT 02 etc... to do that but it's free to practice, the track and the people are great.
It'll be gone after August.

Cal Raceway is only a little further north than Tamiya track but is also a nice place to race, TQ RC Raceway is a nice black carpet track about the same distance from San Diego also.
Unsure what is in San Diego for Onroad or carpet but there is also Offroad available down there.