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Old 02-02-2006, 11:43 AM   #31
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I agree...If it wasnt for countries like Japan and China we would not have half the technology we have today!! If most americans had the work ethics of those countries half the problems in the US would go away!!

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HUH? What are you smokin? If it werent for the US most of the technology wouldnt get invented!
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Old 02-02-2006, 11:47 AM   #32
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I agree...If it wasnt for countries like Japan and China we would not have half the technology we have today!! If most americans had the work ethics of those countries half the problems in the US would go away!!

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HUH? We would have all the same technology, it would just cost more money. And as far as our work ethic goes.. You think I should be sitting here next to this $80k CNC machine (as I am right now) making about $.50 per day?? Thats their work ethic.

If they stood up and declined that cheap ass under pay, then the prices to have things mass produced overthere would go up. In turn, the work would stay in the US. Unfortunately we have food here, and plenty of it. We don't need a $3 per month pay just to scrape by on some rice.
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HUH? What are you smokin? If it werent for the US most of the technology wouldnt get invented!
Exactly, technology gets developed here and other high wage countries(that's where the money to be made is, we just can't compete with their production costs).
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Old 02-02-2006, 11:59 AM   #34
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Ironic about mentioning work ethics..... we all should go back to work instead of surfing rctech and debating on an issue while your boss is paying you to work for them, not debating on rctech!

Work Ethics? I gone none!

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Old 02-02-2006, 12:29 PM   #35
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Hahaha! Most of the time people are just checking their stocks, surfing porn sites or chatting instead of working, at least that's what my colleagues do.
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Old 02-02-2006, 12:32 PM   #36
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Hahaha! Most of the time people are just checking their stocks, surfing porn sites or chatting instead of working, at least that's what my colleagues do.
Yup, how do you think I have 2000+ posts???

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Old 02-02-2006, 12:45 PM   #37
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Interesting thread - for a non-US cictzen to find that US citizens think the same way! I think there is a point here - WE are the ones who are driving our own jobs away.

We want cheaper everything, and don't care what the consequences are. Just as we drove the UK car makers into oblivion, you are sending GM and Ford the same way. You're all out there buying 1950s designed pick-up trucks and Japanese sedans, while Ford and GM burn!! What's more interesting is the the Japanese can make cars in the UK and the US and thrive, because they focus on what the customer wants.

On the Union thing, who created them in the first place? Robber-baron managers in the 19th century who exploited workers mercilessly. In many ways, the management haven't changed. What's most disappointing is their inability to run their companies at a profit in their own countries, when the Japanese, Koreans, etc. manage it just fine! Why can a US cictzen working for Toyota run a profitable car plant with the same people as a US manager in a GM car plant, but only the Toyota plant makes a profit? Even if you take away the pensions and healthcare bit, GM lost three times what they pay for that!!

We drive the need for cheaper products, and our home-grown companies can't provide that out of our contries - but the Japanese, etc. can? So just how is that the fault of the Unions? Look yourself in the mirror, we're as much part of the problem as part of the solution!!

Oh, and if you get a faulty part, go back to the shop or manufacturer and complain. I am not sure how one bad part makes manufacturing standards worse today (sample size of one non-conclusive!), nor how a complaint on here will get that fixed. Sorry you had the trouble!
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i find this really funny.i cant see how anyone agrees with outsourcing to china and destroying there own economy.how can you not see the downward spiral.how long can you be ok with eventually putting yourself out of a job and everyone else for cheaper prices now.all of the outsourced products can be made in the U.S or U.K. or where ever and still sell for the same price.it will just not be as profitable for that company.i manufacture all of my own products and many other large companies as well and i am more than competitive with companies who outsource.what does this tell you?your not paying any less,all you are doing is supporting a fat cat who is effectively hurting themselves in the longrun.people cant buy product if they have no job.so eventually they will be hurting themselves.in the meantime its manufacturers who lose and soon after the domino effect starts.we all will feel it.even those of you who support this free trade will feel differently if you do not open your eyes and look at the big picture.
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There's a happy medium...you can't be a totally protectionist economy...

If you don't want to be a consumer of non-native products, then you can't expect others to want to purchase goods from you...
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perfect example of what i am saying is,i had a local R/C company come to me to quote on making aluminum T maxx wheel,i quoted him $8.00 each for qty of 100 pc.his target selling price was $44.99 per pair.this is plenty of profit if you ask me for doing nothing but making a phone call.well,he decided to get them from china for $2.50 per pair.he is still selling them for $44.99.I couldnt even get the material for that price!!this in my eyes is just greed and it will catch up with him
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Unfortunately, today's businesses are profit-driven. Just look at those oil companies......
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dont get me started on that

i just wish that some of these companies could be happy with making an honest living.
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It's very true,if you want to really make it nowadays you have to do it on your own,you'll never get anywhere working for the other guy,cause he's out for himself, not you.
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