478LikesTLR 22 4.0
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12-07-2017, 06:16 PM
#1786
I've run the 3x1.5+1 pistons all around with 32.5 f and 27.5 rear as well and really like it in my stock buggy. I run 3x1.4+1 in front and 3x1.5+1 in rear with 30wt all around on my mod buggy and it is dialed! I am experimenting with different pistons and weight oils atm on the stock buggy. Not touching the mod as it ain't broke so don't fix it!
Side note I am running Associated white front and black rear springs on the stock buggy atm and Associated grey and Yokomo Green on the mod.
Side note I am running Associated white front and black rear springs on the stock buggy atm and Associated grey and Yokomo Green on the mod.
12-07-2017, 07:25 PM
#1787
12-07-2017, 08:10 PM
#1788
The +1.0mm hole acts differently. The entire surface area of the holes help dictate the static feel (around ride height), while the individual hole size, qty and placement dictate how the dampening "packs up" or stiffens with quick movement. The oil has to "fight" to converge to the nearest hole. Less hole, more fighting, more resistance. Further hole distance, more fighting in one direction, more resistance. A smaller hole (1.0mm hole), same amount of hole, smaller hole, more fighting. And nothing is linear either. A 1.0mm hole won't pack 2x what a 2.0mm hole will, it'll be much greater of an effect.
So... the +1mm hole is pretty popular with a lot of people. Car feels softer are ride height (more grip and quicker), but still packs similarly despite the softer ride height feel (lands just as good). I run the +1mm hole on my 4wd, but I'm still liking normal 1.6/1.7 on my 2wd.
12-08-2017, 11:45 AM
#1789
Tech Master
iTrader: (15)
Trolled by the front wing?
The +1.0mm hole acts differently. The entire surface area of the holes help dictate the static feel (around ride height), while the individual hole size, qty and placement dictate how the dampening "packs up" or stiffens with quick movement. The oil has to "fight" to converge to the nearest hole. Less hole, more fighting, more resistance. Further hole distance, more fighting in one direction, more resistance. A smaller hole (1.0mm hole), same amount of hole, smaller hole, more fighting. And nothing is linear either. A 1.0mm hole won't pack 2x what a 2.0mm hole will, it'll be much greater of an effect.
So... the +1mm hole is pretty popular with a lot of people. Car feels softer are ride height (more grip and quicker), but still packs similarly despite the softer ride height feel (lands just as good). I run the +1mm hole on my 4wd, but I'm still liking normal 1.6/1.7 on my 2wd.
The +1.0mm hole acts differently. The entire surface area of the holes help dictate the static feel (around ride height), while the individual hole size, qty and placement dictate how the dampening "packs up" or stiffens with quick movement. The oil has to "fight" to converge to the nearest hole. Less hole, more fighting, more resistance. Further hole distance, more fighting in one direction, more resistance. A smaller hole (1.0mm hole), same amount of hole, smaller hole, more fighting. And nothing is linear either. A 1.0mm hole won't pack 2x what a 2.0mm hole will, it'll be much greater of an effect.
So... the +1mm hole is pretty popular with a lot of people. Car feels softer are ride height (more grip and quicker), but still packs similarly despite the softer ride height feel (lands just as good). I run the +1mm hole on my 4wd, but I'm still liking normal 1.6/1.7 on my 2wd.
12-09-2017, 11:02 AM
#1790
Has anyone seen this happen before? My car lost an insert and the shim in the middle of practice. Right next to the car when the car stopped was the hinge pin invent and nothing was broke.
12-09-2017, 04:12 PM
#1791
Tech Initiate
fwiw, I finally took my car to the track and it appears the ride height\springs may have settled. It was 24mm 24.5mm or so at first. After a few battery packs I measured it again. I think its around 22mm. I haven't done a full look over the car to see if something else may have happened but it appears it has settled.
12-09-2017, 05:32 PM
#1792
fwiw, I finally took my car to the track and it appears the ride height\springs may have settled. It was 24mm 24.5mm or so at first. After a few battery packs I measured it again. I think its around 22mm. I haven't done a full look over the car to see if something else may have happened but it appears it has settled.
12-09-2017, 06:56 PM
#1793
I apologize if this had been asked but I just got a 22 4.0 and looking for some front wheels. I usually run black de wheels on everything I own but don’t see any de wheels to run. Is there a different de wheel I can run?
12-09-2017, 09:48 PM
#1794
Frank,
Thanks for explaining the pistons with the 1.0. One more question, do you prefer the
1.4 x 3 and 1.0 x 1
or
1.6 x 2 and 1.0 x 1
Saw setups with both types of pistons and curious the difference in feel between the 4 hole vs 3 hole
Thanks for explaining the pistons with the 1.0. One more question, do you prefer the
1.4 x 3 and 1.0 x 1
or
1.6 x 2 and 1.0 x 1
Saw setups with both types of pistons and curious the difference in feel between the 4 hole vs 3 hole
12-10-2017, 03:51 AM
#1795
I'm waiting for that story too!!
Just picked up a 2nd hand 4.0, rebuilding it to DPs TLR Cup setup (buggy was built for astroturf) & have a few questions:
Spindle ball stud (low mount) - is that the ball stud in B3 of the manual?? (& needing to be changed from kit setup)
Bump steer spacer (0.5mm) - is that the spacer under the spindle ball stud?? (& needing to be changed from kit setup)
Ackerman ball stud (low mount) - is that the ball stud in B2 of the manual?? (not needing to be changed from kit setup)
Ackerman spacer (0mm) - is that the spacer under the ball stud above?? (& needing to be removed from kit setup)
Axle spacing (+1mm) - please explain??
TIA for answers!
Just picked up a 2nd hand 4.0, rebuilding it to DPs TLR Cup setup (buggy was built for astroturf) & have a few questions:
Spindle ball stud (low mount) - is that the ball stud in B3 of the manual?? (& needing to be changed from kit setup)
Bump steer spacer (0.5mm) - is that the spacer under the spindle ball stud?? (& needing to be changed from kit setup)
Ackerman ball stud (low mount) - is that the ball stud in B2 of the manual?? (not needing to be changed from kit setup)
Ackerman spacer (0mm) - is that the spacer under the ball stud above?? (& needing to be removed from kit setup)
Axle spacing (+1mm) - please explain??
TIA for answers!
12-10-2017, 08:16 AM
#1796
Tech Addict
Buy a TLR white front for the 4.0 and dye it with some "Rit Dye." Works great. You can probably find some videos on it. Pot of hot water and the dye. Works great!!
Last edited by WallyRC; 12-12-2017 at 09:05 AM.
12-10-2017, 08:29 AM
#1797
Great post. Wouldn't the extra holes pack up faster in the rear causing less grip also than a 2 hole?
Trolled by the front wing?
The +1.0mm hole acts differently. The entire surface area of the holes help dictate the static feel (around ride height), while the individual hole size, qty and placement dictate how the dampening "packs up" or stiffens with quick movement. The oil has to "fight" to converge to the nearest hole. Less hole, more fighting, more resistance. Further hole distance, more fighting in one direction, more resistance. A smaller hole (1.0mm hole), same amount of hole, smaller hole, more fighting. And nothing is linear either. A 1.0mm hole won't pack 2x what a 2.0mm hole will, it'll be much greater of an effect.
So... the +1mm hole is pretty popular with a lot of people. Car feels softer are ride height (more grip and quicker), but still packs similarly despite the softer ride height feel (lands just as good). I run the +1mm hole on my 4wd, but I'm still liking normal 1.6/1.7 on my 2wd.
The +1.0mm hole acts differently. The entire surface area of the holes help dictate the static feel (around ride height), while the individual hole size, qty and placement dictate how the dampening "packs up" or stiffens with quick movement. The oil has to "fight" to converge to the nearest hole. Less hole, more fighting, more resistance. Further hole distance, more fighting in one direction, more resistance. A smaller hole (1.0mm hole), same amount of hole, smaller hole, more fighting. And nothing is linear either. A 1.0mm hole won't pack 2x what a 2.0mm hole will, it'll be much greater of an effect.
So... the +1mm hole is pretty popular with a lot of people. Car feels softer are ride height (more grip and quicker), but still packs similarly despite the softer ride height feel (lands just as good). I run the +1mm hole on my 4wd, but I'm still liking normal 1.6/1.7 on my 2wd.
12-11-2017, 05:44 PM
#1800
Is the stock carpet setup any good for 17.5