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Old 03-12-2018, 07:49 PM
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Default 22 3.0 and 22 4.0 for loose dirt track

Thinking of getting the 22 4.0.however, asides to the chassis and lay down gear box, it seems to be most of the
parts are similar with the 22 3.0 - assuming I will be running 3 gears stand up. Please kindly help to enlighten me. Thanks
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David,
You are correct, it shares most of the same parts with the 3.0 however the chasis is different, laydown gear box, body and the material of the arms/rear tower is harder. If you have a 3.o already running standup I don't think it will be much different. All the same parts except the new spindles are included in the 4.0.

However if your getting a new car, the 4.0 would be the way to go as you get both the laydown and standup version in the same box.(think it is only original 4.0 and not the sr version). Converting would be costly if you were to make a 3.0 to a 4.0 with all the parts.


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Thinking of getting the 22 4.0.however, asides to the chassis and lay down gear box, it seems to be most of the
parts are similar with the 22 3.0 - assuming I will be running 3 gears stand up. Please kindly help to enlighten me. Thanks
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Originally Posted by dbracn
David,
You are correct, it shares most of the same parts with the 3.0 however the chasis is different, laydown gear box, body and the material of the arms/rear tower is harder. If you have a 3.o already running standup I don't think it will be much different. All the same parts except the new spindles are included in the 4.0.

However if your getting a new car, the 4.0 would be the way to go as you get both the laydown and standup version in the same box.(think it is only original 4.0 and not the sr version). Converting would be costly if you were to make a 3.0 to a 4.0 with all the parts.
Thanks Bro for the advices
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Any word on a new car? I know AE will have the .1 out soon and the Yokomo may also have one. A number of guys at OCRC seem to be changing or going away from the TLR? If Yokomo had more than 350 something world cars even more TLR's would be on here for sale.
I really enjoy driving my TLR but would not mind building something new.
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Originally Posted by dbracn
However if your getting a new car, the 4.0 would be the way to go as you get both the laydown and standup version in the same box.(think it is only original 4.0 and not the sr version). Converting would be costly if you were to make a 3.0 to a 4.0 with all the parts.
Ya, like you said, just the normal 4.0. SR just laydown.
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Old 03-13-2018, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by westkoast661
Just switched to the TLR 22 4.0 after years of running AE. Is there ANY way possible I can run AE wheels on the FRONT of the 22? I really donít wanna start new buying wheels. I have waaay to many AE wheels

Thanks in advance
Put all the shims on the outside of the hub and add a small washer between the hex and wheel, for the rear use a A&E 7.0 mm or wider, I use 8.5, plastic hex and just bore it out with a drill of the same size as the axle
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Originally Posted by Slashripper
Put all the shims on the outside of the hub and add a small washer between the hex and wheel, for the rear use a A&E 7.0 mm or wider, I use 8.5, plastic hex and just bore it out with a drill of the same size as the axle
Thanks for the info because I just picked one up and have all ae wheels too thanks
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Originally Posted by Slashripper
Put all the shims on the outside of the hub and add a small washer between the hex and wheel, for the rear use a A&E 7.0 mm or wider, I use 8.5, plastic hex and just bore it out with a drill of the same size as the axle
If you are saying shim the front hex out to fit ae front wheels to a 22, that will not work. The ae wheels already make the car too wide. Aside from being too wide, it also induces weight jacking because of the increase in scrub radius. Find someone selling a 22 with extra tires on here. Offer to buy a few sets of fronts for $25.

You can do that to run 22 wheels on an ae car, but you can't go the other way.
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Originally Posted by skoalisbad4me
Iíve never had a single ball cup pop off and I have thousands of laps on my 4.0sr
I have a 22 4.0 SR and I havenít popped a ball cup yet and Iíve took some nasty spills lol
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Originally Posted by Phugazi



Just got a set of those in the mail and mounted up some low profile Cut Staggers...fit great! Ran same tires with Schumacher slim wheels on my B6 so was excited DE made slims for the 22 4.0. I also run them not glued and never had a issue.
Thanks! Making me wish I hadn't changed my mind and gotten white...
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Originally Posted by mark-rc
What effect will running the axle spacers do to the handling of the 22 4.0?
Iím wondering the same thing. Is it just used when you run 67mm bones with the tranny set to +3.5 or can you run them for both 0 and +3.5 where do you put the shim also? The manual doesnít show.
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I'm planning to buy a 4.0 SR to race on black carpet and astro. Other than the gear diff, springs and anti roll bars, is there anything else I should plan to order?
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Originally Posted by JeffC
I'm planning to buy a 4.0 SR to race on black carpet and astro. Other than the gear diff, springs and anti roll bars, is there anything else I should plan to order?
Regular 4.0 Driveshafts, axles for regular 4.0 driveshafts, HRC front pivot, +3 hubs and weight plates. Better off buying a regular 4.0 and a lockout, if that’s what you’re after.
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Originally Posted by JeffC
I'm planning to buy a 4.0 SR to race on black carpet and astro. Other than the gear diff, springs and anti roll bars, is there anything else I should plan to order?
+1 to AZJP. Definitely go with the regular 4.0. Everything you need comes in that kit minus the gear diff and swaybars.
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I thought the SR was the same thing but lighter drivetrain components and no stand up gearbox. I guess I'm just confused why the standard would be preferred. Please help me understand.

BTW, this is for 17.5 on carpet/turf.

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