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Old 07-12-2017, 04:29 PM   #1471
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We ran bladder shocks initially with the SCTE. Took the bladders out and never looked back but I can see outdoor might like them. TLR sold bladders for the 22 shocks.

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Not sure if these are compatible with the latest bleeder screw shock caps but I would suspect it would be ok still.
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After you spend a lot of time building 1/10 scale shocks with a bladder and then try emulsion I don't think you can go back. Much easier to repeat results and get a pair of shocks to be the same. Takes some practice to do it with bladder. Emulsion is so much easier. For 1/8 scale I still use bladder, but plan to make the jump to emulsion soon and I will not be going back. JMHO
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SCBE has TEN shocks not 22 style as well. Stuff like that.
What is a TEN shock and a 22 style?
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Old 07-14-2017, 09:55 PM   #1474
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The 3.0 went with the 22 stock conversion kit. The shocks are lighter and use a smaller dia spring which is commone to most all 10th scale cars. The Original SCTE used the TEN shocks which have thicker shocker bodies and require the use of a special spring for that shock. Basically the 2.0 and 3.0 SCTE shocks are different.
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If memory serves, I believe that the TEN shocks were 13mm as opposed to the 22 shocks being 12mm.
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If memory serves, I believe that the TEN shocks were 13mm as opposed to the 22 shocks being 12mm.
Nope that is not correct. Both are 12mm shocks. The shock body wall thickness is just way bigger on the Ten shock.
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It's been a while. Thanks for the clarification
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:37 AM   #1478
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It's been a while. Thanks for the clarification
Sorry everyone.. but when you say the 22, you referring to a model of RC car? Like saying the Corvette has more horsepower than the Mustang?
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:40 AM   #1479
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So what is the SCBE most similar to? Whats the difference between the Losi SCTE 2.0 and 3.0? Is there a 1.0?
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Yes like the TLR 22 series of cars (22, 22-4, 22T, 22SCT). TLR made that style of shock for and released it with the 3.0. It was offered as a conversion for the 2.0 however.
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Old 07-17-2017, 03:40 AM   #1481
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So what is the SCBE most similar to? Whats the difference between the Losi SCTE 2.0 and 3.0? Is there a 1.0?
My friend, you have ask a difficult question that most people rather avoid getting into because there is no short answer. This platform continues to change as pieces and parts are spread far and wide among Losi/TLR rigs. The SCBE is going to be the sister/brother of all the past and current Losi/TLR 4wd short course trucks. That includes ready to run, kits and even a 1/8 nitro buggy.

Here is where to start your research if you want to know more about the heritage of the current SCTE and where the SCBE bones came from and what other rigs share parts with it.

Losi Ten T - 1/10 scale Nitro Truggy - circa Christmas 2009

Losi 810 Nitro buggy - 1/8 scale buggy! - circa 2010

Losi SCTE or V1 - circa early 2011

Losi SCTE 2.0 - circa Jan 2013

Losi SCTE 3.0 - circa Sep 2016

Losi TEN-SCT Nitro- circa 2012

Losi TEN Rally-X - circa 2013

Losi TEN SCTE Troy Lee DesignsŪ - circa 2015

Losi TEN-SCBE - circa early 2016

Losi TEN-MT - circa 2016

Losi Tenacity SCT - circa early 2017

There may be more, but this is a good starting point. They all share parts, some more than others. The obvious differences will be chassis, chassis stiffeners, shocks, battery mount, body and a couple different length center axles and two different stub axles that I'm aware of.

Many of the gear boxes, hubs, bearings, a arms, shocks, camber/steering rods, out drives and drive shafts will interchange. The Ten T and 810 had different stub axles and one shorter center dive shaft. One way to check part fitment is to look up the parts on A Main hobbies and check the Compatibility tab. Some things will fit no matter what rig they list it for. If you look closely you can pick out the parts that will work.

The race trucks such as the SCTE 2.0 and 3.0 will have the best and most desirable parts such as HD diff cases, newer harden shock bodies on the 2.0 and the 22 shock design on 3.0. The adjustable a arm holders and even the chassis might be worth looking at. The 2.0 and some of the 3.0 parts will be higher quality than what was sold on other Losi rigs. An example of this is the 2017 Tenacity SCT that has plastic shock bodies like the 2016 SCBE. The shocks appear to be the same design and size of the aluminum blue shocks on the Ten SCTE V1 and the even better harden titanium color shocks on the SCTE 2.0 truck. Look closely for upgrade parts from the race trucks.

I hope this info helps you. It has inspired me to think about converting my SCTE 2.0 into a SCBE just because I can and it looks cool. IMO, Everyone who bought a SCBE should have bought the SCTE 2.0 truck and converted it so it would have the best parts available.

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This would be great info to post under a TLR Losi SCTE sub section such as "SCTE platform history". A week or month from now another person will be asking these questions again and cant find this post. That is a fact!
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What are the bodies that fit the 3.0 that are high flow bodies? I live in an area that has a ton of wind and racing outdoors is no fun when racing a parachute!

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Old 07-20-2017, 08:06 PM   #1483
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What are the you the bodies that fit the 3.0 that are high flow bodies? I live in an area that has a ton of wind and racing outdoors is no fun when racing a parachute!
Use the Proline flotek bodies or the TLR bodies.....but for out door you will need to pretty much do all the cutouts
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Was just reading some on the Flotek bodies. Seems some have stated the Flotek bodies (raptor) is to narrow on both the front and rear.
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+1 for using all vents and and then some. Check the rules for your track before going too crazy.

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