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Here are some good build tips and notes from b1narych0ice (thank you):

Specific build step comments/warnings, including areas I replaced stock parts -- Think of this as a FAQ that answers questions I had from other builders about each step:

A-3: You can instead use TLR Aluminum Servo Mount here.
A-5: Be sure to get the shorter screw in the correct hole.
A-6: Use a 76 or 78T spur if you are running a 13.5T-21.5T motor instead of the 84 in the kit! and...
A-6: The plastic washer between the pulley and the thrust assembly should be oriented so that the flat side goes toward the pulley, and the side with the ring goes towards the thrust assembly's metal washer. Diagram in instructions is correct, you just can't see that this washer isn't flat on both sides from the illustration.
A-7: Be sure the nut holding the Full-Time 4WD assembly is nice and tight, I have seen it get loose in the 1.0 car!
A-9: Put the gears on the jackshaft before the c-clips, so that you don't have to deal with getting the c-clips off to put the gears on

B-2: It seems to be possible to push the outdrives on so tight that they bind when spun, be sure to ensure that they spin freely as the manual notes.
B-7: You're screwing the 1.3mm screws into metal, don't crank so hard you strip the heads on the screws. While this is metal-on-metal, the manual doesn't call for loctite here.
B-8: The rear diff has fewer/bigger teeth, the front diff has more/smaller teeth.
C-3/C-4: TLR Aluminum Bellcranks and Exotek steering rack can be used here to increase durability/reduce steering slop
C-8: TLR Aluminum A/B Horn can be used to increase durability/reduce steering slop.
D-2: Don't worry about the kingpins sticking out the front even when the nut is tight, the bumper will push them in and keep them there.
D-5: Shock tower screws were the tightest plastic part on my kit, look from the side when tightening down the tower at the gap between the tower and the front bulkhead, tighten until this gap is closed.
D-6/D-7: Don't mix up the CVA pins and the hex pins, should be easy because hex pins are black and CVA pins are silver.
D-8/D-9: Use a toothpick to get threadlock in the metal block instead of applying it to the shoulder bolt, so that you don't get it between the plastic spindle and the metal block.
E-1/E-2: Don't mix up the 10mm pins for the rear hexes with the 11mm pins for the rear CVAs! They are packaged together and both silver, so it's easy to think you just have 4 pins that are the same!
G-1: No need to install the post on the right side if you are running a shorty and use velcro to attach the body to the mud guards. You can move the right post up or down a little so that it snugly fits your shorty battery.
G-2: Aluminum Servo Horn can be used here.
G-4: Adjust the length of the link and the servo horn position so that both the servo horn and the horn on the bellcranks are parallel with each other, and perpendicular with the link.

Hope this helps some of you that are putting your kits together, and thanks to Frank and the TLR crew for a solid kit!

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Driveshaft Update from Frank - I've reviewed some parts today from stock. The 'issue' part is definitely the rear CVA driveshaft bone. The pin slot is not 90* to the bore for the barrel. We are working to get good parts made and here for CS use ASAP.

Some of the parts I checked were not 100% free, but definitely run-able. Keep in mind that the driveshafts should wear in fairly well, and quickly (within a few packs). If you have a 22-4 2.0 and are experiencing issues with the driveshafts, we won't have good replacements for probably a couple of weeks (no definitive timeline yet), so I would recommend running them on track for 1-2 packs, then rechecking. I think most will free up well.

I am sorry that we are having an issue. Everything was great during samples until production, but we'll make sure to get it right, and make it right for those with the bad parts.
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What is the proper level for the diffs...i am used to building 8th scale diffs, i would assume its the same?
Just under level. You need some room for the output gear that is in the cap.

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Frank can u explain what is the difference between the a and b horn, TLR331018?
It isn't the horn, it is the ackermann setting. B will have less off power, better mid corner steering. A will have more off power steering, less mid corner.

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Old 03-13-2019, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Root
Holeshots, or Double Dees, on looser tracks, are pretty much always going to look like pizza cutters with adequate power. The foam, and the tires themselves, are very softs and will expand with RPM. Now, if only one tire is doing this for example, like the inside front, you can try going up in oil.
ok, will try some other tyres, running at up coming club challenge round so will see what happens, they both balloon up so you might be right, one other issue is that it seems to lack lower speed turning
especially in quick change of direction, would i be best in trying a thinner diff oil to help with more low speed steering?
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ok, will try some other tyres, running at up coming club challenge round so will see what happens, they both balloon up so you might be right, one other issue is that it seems to lack lower speed turning
especially in quick change of direction, would i be best in trying a thinner diff oil to help with more low speed steering?
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Diff oil is only one setup change. It's hard to say without knowing your entire setup.
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To move the battery further forward are we cutting the rearward most tunnel mount?
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That looks fantastic!
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how is the battery held in? double sided tape?
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Yep, Double sided tape. Been using it all along in the "Normal" position. I'd like to move the battery all the way up and by the looks of it they are chopping that one tunnel mount off.
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What tape do use that holds that well?
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3M. You can buy it at Wal Mart as well as many other places.
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Has anyone used the exotek or poly pinions on their 22-4 in 13.5? how did they hold up?
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OK been reading and decided to buy this. what else do I need besides transponder and my m11 whats the best servo ? going with a tekin esc and thinking 5.5 tekin set up. any thing else I should put on my list ? Thanks
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What tape do use that holds that well?
This is the best stuff.
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OK been reading and decided to buy this. what else do I need besides transponder and my m11 whats the best servo ? going with a tekin esc and thinking 5.5 tekin set up. any thing else I should put on my list ? Thanks
I like the SPMSS6240 in my 22-4. I'd start there and see how it goes.
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This is the best stuff. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1



I like the SPMSS6240 in my 22-4. I'd start there and see how it goes.
thank you Mr Root.
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I will say that unless you're a diehard Horizon Hobby loyalist, I'd recommend getting a servo with a 25t spline count. Nearly every other manufacturer has adopted to this count, so it's pretty much the standard. Spektrum still uses 23t.
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Has anyone used the exotek or poly pinions on their 22-4 in 13.5? how did they hold up?
I used a poly pinion on a RC10 Team Car in a Vintage race with a Johnson 540 motor and found that the plastic gear started to slip on the metal hub.
It may have been a one off Strodedawg but I won't use them again.
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