I'll start the list on the first page...:nod:

RCBuddha, thanks for all your work! One thing to note on the first page....Q & A on X-rings is great for B5M and B5 but the B6 & B6D come with x-rings (don't want to confuse people).

I am curious if the shock shafts will hold the piston on with a screw or E-clip??? I've never had a problem with the e-clips, but it seems like having the piston screwed on tight would improve smoothness and consistency.

i believe they will use V2 shafts (screw in piston).

fixed! :blush:

I would have taken a screen shot of the whole page if I'd known it was coming down. I only wrote down the items I was interested in -I'm getting the B6D, so I didn't worry about the arms/towers.

I did get a few FT options down though:

91755 Ti Screw Kit
91669 Aluminum Steering Rack
91668 Aluminum Steering Bellcrank

91658 B6 Aluminum Bulkhead
91659 B6 Brass Bulkhead
91661 B6 Front Shock Tower, flat
91663 B6 Front Shock Tower, gull wing
91665 B6 Rear Tower
91668 B6 Aluminum Steering Bellcrank
91669 B6 Aluminum Steering Rack
91671 B6 Flat Front Arms
91672 B6 Flat Front Arms, hard
91673 B6 Gull Wing Front Arms
91674 B6 Gull Wing Front Arms, hard
91675 B6 Caster Blocks
91677 B6 Steering Blocks
91679 B6 Steering Block Arms
91683 B6 Titanium Front Axles
91686 B6 Aluminum Arm Mount, C
91687 B6 Brass Arm Mount, C
91688 B6 Aluminum Arm Mount, D
91690 B6 Brass Arm Mount C, 25g
91692 B6 Rear Gearbox Brace
91693 B6 Rear Ballstud Mount
91695 B6 Rear Arms
91696 B6 Rear Arms, hard
91697 B6 Rear Hubs
91698 B6 Rear Hub Link Nuts
91702 B6 Ball Differential Kit
91703 B6 Gear Differential Kit
91706 B6 Standup Gearbox, 3-gear
91707 B6 Standup Gearbox, 4-gear
91708 B6 Laydown Gearbox
91709 B6 Chassis Braces
91710 B6 Top Shaft
91711 B6 Gear Cover, 4-gear
91712 B6 Gear Cover, 3-gear
91713 B6 Standup Motor Plate, 3-gear
91714 B6 Standup Motor Plate, 4-gear
91715 B6 Laydown Motor Plate
91716 B6 Idler Gear, 39T
91717 B6 Idler Gear, 26T
91718 B6 Wing/Body Mount
91735 B6 Front Anti-roll Bar Kit
91736 B6 Rear Anti-roll Bar Kit
91745 B6 Aluminum Chassis Weight, 9g
91746 B6 Aluminum Chassis Weight, 13g
91747 B6 Steel Chassis Weight, 25g
91748 B6 Steel Chassis Weight, 40g

people planing on getting the b6d and the laydown.. will you be getting the gear diff as well?
what does the gear diff do different then the ball diff?

I'll be doing some math to see how much it would be for the b6d plus all the parts to convert it to a b6. I'm thinking at least 100 dollars. If I raced dirt I don't even think I would upgrade my b5m because not enough has changed from the lite version to the b6d. Some stuff but I can't imagine it is going to be game changing. The b6 for carpet/turf racers on the other hand... Gear diff, lower ride height adjustment, wider tower, front mounted rear shocks, lay down transmission, etc... That makes it a different animal. They made the b6 to be competitive on turf. I just can't help but think the made the b6d just to go along with it. Still has the 3 gear, ball diff, etc.

battery
 

Is the shorty battery only 1 that will fit in car.?

the dirt version can use a square pack

According to Facebook, Rivken is setting up his dirt car with a laydown trany.
Great, now I need to get both cars. Shucky Darn!

Kody ran his laydown car at OCRC the other night too. It's going to be the new normal.

I think so too. Lay down, flat front arm, ball diff and shocks in the rear of the rear arms is my bet for the new standard. Stand up tranny will go the way if the rear motor.

I wonder why the b5m got rid of the gull arms and then went back to them for carpet? I ditched my gull arms for flats for carpet. Maybe the geometry is different upfront from the b5m??

" We have found that the flat arms have a more precise feel off center but then release the corner sooner making them suited for most dirt tracks. The also pop better off of jumps. The gull wing arms stay steering longer in the corner which is a primary need on carpet." - Kody Numedahl

What no prices? Good thing I got a look at it before it went Bermuda Triangle. Between the weights and aluminum steering, as well as extra parts for repair. It's looking like an additional $100.

Oh I have the price list lol

I saw the CF towers are $19.99.

What does the lay down tranny case cost?

Laydown gearbox 6.99
Laydown motor plate 13.99
39t idler gear 5.99

So, 27 bucks thereabouts.

Thanks.
And to think that stuff cost about $200 for the aftermarket b5m parts.

You will Also need the B6 Waterfall. They are different lengths for each car.

Would you guys also want to go with the lower B6 wing mount and a wing without the shock cutouts? Would you guys also run the shocks in the front? I know, first things first and let's get the car in our hands, but I'm so excited about the true tangible tuning possibilities. Did Rivkin setup his Laydown transmission car with the shocks in the front?

he had them in front for carpet, but now has them in the rear for dirt

Nice to know. Thanks!
I imagine it would, but could you easily swap the gear diff for the ball diff in the Laydown?

yes, they are interchangeable.

It looks to be as easily as usual with the B5M
no quick access like the xb2

not it will not be. I would have liked to have seen easier diff access..but it didnt happen

Kody said on fb that they looked into it, but placed proper gear mesh as a higher priority.

Nothing that one of these won't make short work of...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004Y...=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Hmm that would make a nice fathers day gift. Now how to suggest it to the wife?

Yeah, pre-ordered my B6D on Tower Hobbies. The only thing, is that it didn't show the $45 savings after I put in my Savers Club discount. It still showed the $309 price. Hopefully the discount comes off when the pre-order is filled.

Can't wait to get it, even sold my B5M for a good price.

it applies it when the order is processed. it should say that in your email

I just checked and the email states it in an odd way, but does say that.
Thanks,

That is correct.... also watch for when it says it is in processing. When I pre-ordered my TC7 it had a $30 off at the time.... got an in stock email... noticed the new coupon for the month was $70 off.... canceled my pre-order and bought one right then and there with the $70.... ;)

So they basically converted his B6 into a B6D, minus the laydown trans. I wonder why they didn't just give him a B6D. Seems like it would be better marketing to say "He ran the B6 on carpet and the B6D w/laydown on clay." Also would be less confusing to people wondering why he's running the B6 on clay when AE keeps saying the B6D is the better clay car.

So Tacoma R/C Raceway is my home track, the traction level there is a lot higher then a lot of indoor tracks, and the team at AE knows this so they came prepared with Spencer's B6D having the Laydown in it. Brent will be starting out with his B6D w/ the standard 3 gear transmission but sound like he plans on switching to the Laydown. Running both types of transmission cases for testing purposes since this is the first time they are going to be at a race on clay with the B6.

Also I am guessing so they can come out with set up sheets for both configurations before we all get our cars so we have great starting points.

Hope this helps

I believe it is showing the ease of converting it and it highlights the tuning ability. Also I am sure there is limited kits that were made available. I like the platform.. in the NW if you live in Portland you pretty much run on carpet in the winter and if you want to run at Dave's outside in the summer you don't need 2 kits.. Same for WA... dirt car for TRCR and if you want to hit the turf at Die hard... convert it. If you ONLY run on carpet/turf... you buy the 6... if you ONLY run on dirt.. get the D. I am pretty sure the laydown will be the new norm.. just like the Mid motor cars took over. Lower the CG the better..

I think people are getting waaaay too hung up on if a car is a "B6" or a B6D". We're going to end up calling it, generically, the B6 and explain the transmission/front arm-tower/diff setup we're using. People, it's the same car that can just be configured in different ways depending on your needs. No need to complicate that. They offer it in two different kits to give you a starting point at either end of the spectrum. Buy whichever one is closest to your needs and build it with whatever parts you deem necessary. It's not rocket surgery.

For one, I doubt rivkin has a production retail kit. So saying b6 vs b6d would be incorrect. I am sure he just got a pile of parts. Also, the b6 and b6d are not different car, just different configuration they plan to bundle and sell in a retail package. If you are NOT on carpet/astro, you will most likely want the B6D and add the configuration with the laydown as needed on high grip clay.