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Old 12-16-2005, 05:27 PM   #106
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Ultimate Hobbies was selling SP1 kits Thanksgiving day and the day after for $339.00 shipped. The kits are still listed on the website but they are probably out. I think the SP2 kits are going for less than $600.00.
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Old 12-16-2005, 06:33 PM   #107
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Ok,Well there you go.A Sp2 for less then 6 bills.
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There is a difference between a plastic chassis brace and the standard Kyosho chassis brace.
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Old 12-16-2005, 10:15 PM   #109
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I love both buggies, but i think that the Kyosho buggy is over priced. In fact, the Kyosho, Mugen, and XRay buggies are all way over priced. And when XRC Cars did thier test, the Jammin and the Kyosho SP2 were just about dead even as far as performance when equiped with the same engine, servos, and tires. I agree, it's more or less the Ford vs. Chevy battle. Both cars are great, if you want to throw money around and prove to the other guys who has more money at the track, then get the kyosho, for those of you who want some extra money to spend on some nice digital servos and maybe a few sets of tires for your buggy, then buy the Jammin buggy.
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Old 12-16-2005, 11:04 PM   #110
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Ultimate Hobbies was selling SP1 kits Thanksgiving day and the day after for $339.00 shipped. The kits are still listed on the website but they are probably out. I think the SP2 kits are going for less than $600.00.

Ultimate hobbies

SP2- $750
SP1- $700
SP2 upgrade kit- $349
777 standard kit- $420
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Old 12-17-2005, 08:18 AM   #111
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If you can buy a Sp 1 for $339 at Ultimate Hobbies that is an awsome price.
I bought a used SP1 off ebay and then bought the needed upgrades (chassis, center uni's, and steering linkage) that is all that is needed to upgrade to the SP2. I spent a total of $80 to upgraded buying the parts off ebay. That would put the total going that rought around $419 for a SP2..... I have one that has every hop up on it including Racers edge f/r shock towers and hubs, chassis braces, carbon fiber top plates, and more and I have spent a total of around $470 to have the car which is now an SP2. I owned all the cars out right now and so far have liked the SP2 and the Jammin the best overall.
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Ultimate hobbies

SP2- $750
SP1- $700
SP2 upgrade kit- $349
777 standard kit- $420

These are the prices that are posted on the website. These prices are not accurate. You have to call them to get the true pricing. Some manufacturers have certain regulations about posting prices on websites.
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If you read better you would notice it said "Thanksgiving day and the day after SP1 kits for 339 shipped".It was probably a sale for thanksgiving.And most of the time you do have to call them just like sdmlsu1 said.
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Also the SP1 was tested against the X1-CR. The SP2 was not available at the time and on a rough track or slick track is it better than the SP1.
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They say the SP2 is supposed to handle better as it now has a longer wheel base & some items were moved more towards the center of the buggy & also slightly to the rear end of the buggy as well, plus the new longer shocks. I haven't even built mine yet though I've had if for over 2 weeks, I'm still buying hop up parts for it before I put it on the track!
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Yea you'll need it.LMAO!
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Listen here Youngin', when you get done buying all the parts to make an SP2, let me know so we can race & I'll lap ya atleast 2 times!!!
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I feel a grudge race coming on!!!





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Old 12-20-2005, 01:32 PM   #119
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Ultimate hobbies

SP2- $750
SP1- $700
SP2 upgrade kit- $349
777 standard kit- $420

These are the prices that are posted on the website. These prices are not accurate. You have to call them to get the true pricing. Some manufacturers have certain regulations about posting prices on websites.
The prices listed are the "fair trade" prices. You need to pick up the telephone and call Ultimate for their selling price which is quite a bit lower than published and this is from my experience with them. Also they don't charge any shipping within the USA's lower 48.

I think the SP2 is priced lower than those of the Mugen Prospec and Xray. But the Jammin should be good for the money. I still use the Hong Nor 9.5 which was it's predeccessor and is a very durable but heavy buggy even with all the CF. (The X1-CR drivetrain is a derivative of the 9.5 Pro.)
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What about the xray vs jammin. I am thinking of getting a buggy. and am trying to find out as much info on both the jammin and xray. to help finalize my desission. anyone?
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