27LikesSchumacher's new K2 4wd buggy ..!
08-11-2016, 07:12 AM - Wikipost
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08-02-2016, 12:01 AM
#616
The Durango DEX410 v1 to v4 were very narrow cars too...and Jorn absolutely dominated with it.
08-02-2016, 07:27 AM
#618
Tech Regular
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Originally Posted by psycho02
Yeah I don't think the difference was narrow or wide cars. I think it was shaft/center diff cars vs belt slipper cars.
08-02-2016, 08:23 AM
#619
Originally Posted by scoobyrs25
Well, belt should be better on dirt. It gives the drivetrain a softer torque curve which should aid traction on dirt. I've shelved my K2 in favor of my Xray and Kyosho cars for now. I'm about to try the carbon chassis and high flex rear top decks to see if I can improve the car. We'll see if it can keep up…..
08-02-2016, 08:45 AM
#620
Originally Posted by psycho02
Normally I would agree but I think the center diff makes a big difference and you can't deny 9 shaft/center diff cars in the main.
08-02-2016, 10:43 AM
#621
Originally Posted by leongkc
I don't know if center diff makes a diff...but looking at the xray setups, bruno and martin are on slipper.
08-02-2016, 09:29 PM
#622
Tech Regular
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I really like the center diff on my Xray. It's too bad. The Schumacher is a work of art and a pleasure to build. I just wish they would change their plastic formula and redesign the a arms. It would be an absolute tank if they did. I've replaced so many parts on my K2 and KF. My Xray and Yokomo have yet to break a single part. Come on Schumacher!!! Are you reading any of this?
08-03-2016, 03:32 AM
#623
Originally Posted by psycho02
Oh? I haven't looked at the setups yet but like I said 5 X-rays 3 associateds and 1 belt driven car a Yokomo. That's a pretty undeniable trend.
08-03-2016, 08:08 AM
#625
I'm going to just put this out there, and I hope I don't sound like I'm a hater...
I went back and watched some of the lower mains because lets face it, with the pros, they can all make a car fast.
The Xray cars just didn't look good to me, which just shows how impressive their drivers are right now. They had more corner speed than anyone out there, but they were flipping and flopping everywhere. They drove very flat and when they broke loose, it was usually a glorious wreck
The AE cars seemed to just jump better and didn't look as anxious on the track. They looked rather lazy in comparison, which I believe is what you wanted for this type of track.
If you watched the K2, it jumped amazingly well, but it looked super locked in on certain places and it would either traction roll or catch a rut. That causes the driver to back off and not drive as hard as they would like. When you're counting 10th's of a second, that doesn't work (hence the C Mains).
I didn't know which cars were Yoks other than Lee and Tom. They both looked pretty good, just not quite as much corner speed.
Just my 2 cents
I went back and watched some of the lower mains because lets face it, with the pros, they can all make a car fast.
The Xray cars just didn't look good to me, which just shows how impressive their drivers are right now. They had more corner speed than anyone out there, but they were flipping and flopping everywhere. They drove very flat and when they broke loose, it was usually a glorious wreck
The AE cars seemed to just jump better and didn't look as anxious on the track. They looked rather lazy in comparison, which I believe is what you wanted for this type of track.
If you watched the K2, it jumped amazingly well, but it looked super locked in on certain places and it would either traction roll or catch a rut. That causes the driver to back off and not drive as hard as they would like. When you're counting 10th's of a second, that doesn't work (hence the C Mains).
I didn't know which cars were Yoks other than Lee and Tom. They both looked pretty good, just not quite as much corner speed.
Just my 2 cents
08-03-2016, 09:41 AM
#626
Tech Master
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I've had the Xray, I've had the K2 and I've had the B44 and Barry you're spot on about them. I ran all but the K2 on clay and carpet/Astro (K2 only Astro) and each has their pluses and minuses. Bruno, Jorn, Cragg & Lee - they are all WORLD CLASS drivers. They can make any buggy look good. This is what everyone forgets. I had a hard time getting my K2 to "settle down". It always seemed twitchy compared to others. Now, I'm no set up guru and others can do a better job of it than me and have done better with it, I can live with that. But I consider myself to be a "club level" racer, which to be fair, most of us really are. If I gave you any A Main buggy from that race 99% of us would have a hard time with it. I chose to switch to a buggy which has a "fatter" sweet spot and is easier to drive, in my opinion. I loved my K2 - with exception to the side gears, oh, the whine - even when greased - but it was a piece of art and if I had more time would really liked to have worked on it to get it more the way I liked a buggy to behave - and added ball diffs for outdoors. Ahh well.
Besides - wasn't the K1 kept around to run on clay, the K2 meant for carpet?
Besides - wasn't the K1 kept around to run on clay, the K2 meant for carpet?
08-03-2016, 04:16 PM
#627
Tech Regular
Grease
Originally Posted by HeavyD99
I've had the Xray, I've had the K2 and I've had the B44 and Barry you're spot on about them. I ran all but the K2 on clay and carpet/Astro (K2 only Astro) and each has their pluses and minuses. Bruno, Jorn, Cragg & Lee - they are all WORLD CLASS drivers. They can make any buggy look good. This is what everyone forgets. I had a hard time getting my K2 to "settle down". It always seemed twitchy compared to others. Now, I'm no set up guru and others can do a better job of it than me and have done better with it, I can live with that. But I consider myself to be a "club level" racer, which to be fair, most of us really are. If I gave you any A Main buggy from that race 99% of us would have a hard time with it. I chose to switch to a buggy which has a "fatter" sweet spot and is easier to drive, in my opinion. I loved my K2 - with exception to the side gears, oh, the whine - even when greased - but it was a piece of art and if I had more time would really liked to have worked on it to get it more the way I liked a buggy to behave - and added ball diffs for outdoors. Ahh well.
Besides - wasn't the K1 kept around to run on clay, the K2 meant for carpet?
Besides - wasn't the K1 kept around to run on clay, the K2 meant for carpet?
08-03-2016, 06:13 PM
#629
I got the first K2 to hit the USA, and I have been running my K2 never had a wining noise in the gears on mine same gears all year. My SV2 on the other hand is the loudest buggy I have ever owned. I run mine dry.
08-03-2016, 11:40 PM
#630
Suspended
i use zx1 extra lube, never had a problem with these gears in every schumacher car i ran..... it its also in my maintenance schedule, every time out check and add grease..
