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Old 06-04-2017, 06:37 PM   #1696
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Bring back the SC8.2! I freaking love that truck.

SCT was NEVER intended to be what it is. Want to see what SCT is all about? Look at the Traxxas Slash, Hyper 10SC, SC104X or Turnigy Trooper (surprisingly good truck that once a few mods are done I will school you with lol)

It's been said before but 2wd SCT are iterations of the 2wd buggy and Stadium truck. The 4wd SCT should be based on the 4wd buggy. Parts can be shared due to common platforms... Ect ect ect.

Where these ebuggy based trucks came from... Honestly I can't remember. Who fouled first? Was it Tekno or TLR?
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Old 06-04-2017, 06:44 PM   #1697
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Thank Traxxas for coming out with the Slash.
That's the birth of modern short course. Losi tried to create a "Heavy Metal" class with a truck body on the XX4 but it never took off. I liked it.
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Bring back the SC8.2! I freaking love that truck.

SCT was NEVER intended to be what it is. Want to see what SCT is all about? Look at the Traxxas Slash, Hyper 10SC, SC104X or Turnigy Trooper (surprisingly good truck that once a few mods are done I will school you with lol)

It's been said before but 2wd SCT are iterations of the 2wd buggy and Stadium truck. The 4wd SCT should be based on the 4wd buggy. Parts can be shared due to common platforms... Ect ect ect.

Where these ebuggy based trucks came from... Honestly I can't remember. Who fouled first? Was it Tekno or TLR?
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Old 06-12-2017, 06:53 PM   #1698
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does anyone know if the arrma motor mount is a drop in? I hate gear changes with the desc10, a real pain. with the metal spur the truck can handle 4s easily. I pit a 1700 t8 in it and a 18 pinion, and it moves.
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Old 06-12-2017, 09:12 PM   #1699
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from what I recall you can run the center diff itself but then need different cups, etc. If you want to run the armma setup see what M2C offers as I think they did a motor mount full chassis conversion that doesn't use the sliding mount system.
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:49 AM   #1700
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I am racing at an outdoor parking lot track with some jumps (5 minute races) and was wondering which motor you would recommend on 2s. The options are either a 3500kv or a 4300kv 550 4 pole motor. Some claim 3500kv has more low end torque and more power overall, in which case I could go larger on the pinion gear and possibly advance the timing some. Or do you you think a 4300kv would be the better choice? Using a smaller pinion gear and possibly decrease the timing some if I need more low end torque. The main concern since it is a heavy 4x4 SCT, is to get really good acceleration without being too hard on the electronics.

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Old 06-19-2017, 09:10 AM   #1701
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don't run timing.

The gearing range of the DESC10 from what I recall was sufficient enough that I didn't feel the need for a lower KV motor thank my standard 4000kv-ish motor.
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Old 06-19-2017, 10:07 AM   #1702
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don't run timing.

The gearing range of the DESC10 from what I recall was sufficient enough that I didn't feel the need for a lower KV motor thank my standard 4000kv-ish motor.
Thank you for the info. Why do you say not to run timing? I find it helpful to change the esc timing if I am in between gear ratios. For example, if I am running a little cool, I go up one setting on the esc timing to get a little more speed instead of going up a tooth on the pinion gear which may be too much.

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Old 06-20-2017, 12:26 PM   #1703
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Personally the only time I have used timing was when the vehicle had issues with keeping the motor cool (SC10 4x4) relative to the gearing (similar to what you describe) and then I would run very little timing (5 degrees at most) with a gearing change to gain back top end as I would go with a smaller pinion when doing this.

However, the reason I say don't run timing is that most people end up fighting with timing and the heat issues that can come along with making adjustments. Its better to get the vehicle running properly without timing if you can first.
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Old 07-19-2017, 11:05 AM   #1704
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Weird question here but does anyone know what body and wheels are shown with the DESC10 on the Durango website? I've been trying to figure that out so I can put together a "stock looking" package for the truck. It can't be the standard DESC410 body because it shows carbon fiber placards on it but they look like ARRMA Senton wheels.
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Pretty sure thy are ARRMA Senton body and wheels.
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Pretty sure thy are ARRMA Senton body and wheels.
You know what? You're right. I didn't know the Senton body was available in clear but...

AR406011

And there it is, carbon fiber placards and all. Even though it seems the "accessory pack" that has those placards is a separate item.

AR402169

Wheels

AR510068

I wonder what other ARRMA parts cross over to other vehicles in the Durango lineup....
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Old 07-19-2017, 11:38 AM   #1707
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Funny Tower is showing this stuff as discontinued....Is ARRMA going under too? I really REALLY dislike Hobbico. Unfortunately they own most of the brands I like. What's next, Futaba?
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well, I believe you won't see futaba go anywhere anytime soon.

I think Arrma will still be around, its probably been the bread and butter versus Durango.
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Futaba and O.S. are so well known that the minute either starts going under, somebody will buy them right away. Can't say the same about Durango or Arrma tho...
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Old 07-22-2017, 10:17 PM   #1710
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Alright, I'm sitting here trying to understand something that further confuses me the more I look at it.

I'm well versed in roll center, toe, caster and camber. What I'm having an issue with is the correlation between the Team Durango setup sheets and the inserts for the shock towers and hinge pins. The little Chart that starts with a shock tower and works it's way down to the front rear hinge pin holder is not being very intuitive to my brain.

For example, the lower roll centre FR shows an insert shaped circle with no less than 25 little circles of adjustment in it. So does the FR.

The upper roll centre has 6 in both upper and lower.

How does this correlate to the actual inserts that have a center dot, a dash and a dot....so on and so on.

I'm fairly new to 1/8 scale so this type of setup is new to me. I still hate pillow ball suspension, I think it's way easier and more accurate to use turnbuckles, but that's just my personal opinion.

I need to figure this system out because my DESC10, DEX8, DNX8 and DEX8T all have it. Hell, my Redcat Hurricane XLR has it.

So,
1) how do you match what's shown on the setup sheet with the various dots and dashes on the inserts?

2) what do the dots and dashes stand for?

3) If you move one dot to the right from center on the 25 dot FR or FF roll center adjustment, what does this mean in actual measurement?

4) Basically I need to understand this system so that I know how to adjust it. Is this actually simple and its just late at night so I can't understand it?

Somebody school me please.
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