Question about wheels and tires
#1
Question about wheels and tires
Was watching guys run at my local track last night and I noticed that almost all buggy and ST guys don't change from the dish type wheels. Is there a reason why these things come with dish wheels and stay that way? Is it personal preference or is there another reason? I.e. aerodynamics, weight, fitment limitations?
I ask cuz honestly I don't care for the dish look but if it's advantageous to keep them I'll learn to love them.
I ask cuz honestly I don't care for the dish look but if it's advantageous to keep them I'll learn to love them.
#4
Herd mentality, pure and simple.
#5
Tech Adept
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I can't agree with this. Dish wheels tend to be stiffer (less flex) and are often more visible, especially the classic yellow wheels. The extra visibility can really help on very wide tracks when it can get easy to "lose" your car in the back sections.
You have a valid opinion, but I don't think it's backed up by much.
You have a valid opinion, but I don't think it's backed up by much.
#6
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I ran Jcon spoked wheels on my B4.1 (and still on my T4.1) for a long time and just recently converted it to a C4.2 with hex wheels, so I cant get spokes anymore. Some guys at the track are happy because they hated my wheels. I liked them because I can see the wheels speed in the slower sections of the track, we have a 180* turn right after a fast section so the spoke wheels allowed me to watch and see if the wheels locked up under braking and I could adjust accordingly. Not being able to watch that has affected my driving so now I put stickers on my wheels so I can still see if I am locking the wheels. Probably wouldn't work on bigger tracks, but I hardly race anywhere besides my local track.
I can also say that dish wheels are softer than the Jcon Rulux wheels. I have them for my T4, B4 and my B44 and they are siffer, which doesn't make them stronger, because flex prevents cracking. I have never broke a Rulux wheel, but I have cracked a AE weel.
I can also say that dish wheels are softer than the Jcon Rulux wheels. I have them for my T4, B4 and my B44 and they are siffer, which doesn't make them stronger, because flex prevents cracking. I have never broke a Rulux wheel, but I have cracked a AE weel.
#7
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Do not totally agree with the "herd mentality", but the fact that one sytle is somewhat forced on us is a big factor. Yes you can search around and find the wheel you are looking for (maybe), but most are what is mass produced and stocked at your LHS and what comes with the kits.
Personnaly I am fine with the solid wheel, spokes never appealled to me but back in the 80s you could almost find any kind of wheel (when bling was still in).
Personnaly I am fine with the solid wheel, spokes never appealled to me but back in the 80s you could almost find any kind of wheel (when bling was still in).
#8
I don't disagree that dish/spoked may have some performance differences, but it's small and I doubt many folks tune with wheels. I still suspect most folks run them because "it's what everyone else runs".
Guarantee you that if Mayfield started running some new spoked wheel, everyone at the local track would start running them as well. For no particular performance reason.
But as you say, t's just an opinion. I could be wrong. Personally I kind of dig the spokes.
#10
Simple answer: they're currently the only thing available.
Prior to the Rulux's brief presence the last non-dish wheels I recall being used were the 5-spoke wheels from the Jrx-2/Pro.
Prior to the Rulux's brief presence the last non-dish wheels I recall being used were the 5-spoke wheels from the Jrx-2/Pro.
#11
I used to run the xx-4 five spoke wheels back in the day on my xxx-4 GP, but they did not hold up and cracked at the spoke wasting a tire with tread life left. After breaking three or four I went back to dish wheels and never looked back. Also the dish wheel is much easier to clean.
#13
Tech Adept
Though front weighted, my b4 often does low angle wheelies at the second half of the straight. I can see the front wheels are a centimeter or two obove the ground and still I can to some degree steer it. Not sure if it's a gyroscopic effect caused by the front wheels spinning or the dish wheels acting as wings at full lock. Quite sure it's not my imagination..
#14
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Though front weighted, my b4 often does low angle wheelies at the second half of the straight. I can see the front wheels are a centimeter or two obove the ground and still I can to some degree steer it. Not sure if it's a gyroscopic effect caused by the front wheels spinning or the dish wheels acting as wings at full lock. Quite sure it's not my imagination..
#15
Tech Adept
It's probably the tire expanding. When the rubber leaves the ground the tire tends to expand at high rpms. So even though the wheel appears to be off the ground there is a little of the center of the tire just touching enough for small amounts of steering. You must be flying if your off the ground in the 2nd half of the straight!