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Old 01-30-2015, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JourneyMan
Anything wrong with the 22T 1.0 titanium turnbuckles? I picked up a couple packages for about $5 a piece and want to use them with HD ball cups.
The rear turnbuckles on the 22T 2.0 is also longer (80mm) than those included on the 1.0.
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Frank, question in regard to wheels and body. The 1.0 wheels will still work with the 2.0? You state the rear is narrower, is that with the hexes? Also the MM body comes not precut. Is the part number the same? I guess my question is will there be a precut version offered? Thanks
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Originally Posted by jspeedracer88
Frank, question in regard to wheels and body. The 1.0 wheels will still work with the 2.0? You state the rear is narrower, is that with the hexes? Also the MM body comes not precut. Is the part number the same? I guess my question is will there be a precut version offered? Thanks
1. 1.0 wheels and bodies fit perfectly for the 2.0, no changes to there.
2. The rear "off-set" is narrower. Longer arm and narrower hex. Overall, the rear end is actually just a touch wider.
3. The replacement part for the body will be fully precut. The bodies (RM and MM) in the kit will not be precut to help us maintain the street price at $299.99.
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Originally Posted by Frank Root
1. 1.0 wheels and bodies fit perfectly for the 2.0, no changes to there.
2. The rear "off-set" is narrower. Longer arm and narrower hex. Overall, the rear end is actually just a touch wider.
3. The replacement part for the body will be fully precut. The bodies (RM and MM) in the kit will not be precut to help us maintain the street price at $299.99.
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Frank, Thanks for the quick reply. I simply CANNOT wait for this. Besides me and Scott Heckert, I think we were the only 2 TLR stadium trucks at the Midwest Champs race. I haven't been this excited about a new kit in quite a while.
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Originally Posted by jspeedracer88
Frank, Thanks for the quick reply. I simply CANNOT wait for this. Besides me and Scott Heckert, I think we were the only 2 TLR stadium trucks at the Midwest Champs race. I haven't been this excited about a new kit in quite a while.
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will this require a low profile servo to run in mm, and will the rear brass antisquat block just released for the buggy late last year fit this and will it be beneficial for mm?
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Originally Posted by rjkotzur
will this require a low profile servo to run in mm, and will the rear brass antisquat block just released for the buggy late last year fit this and will it be beneficial for mm?
This will NOT require a low profile servo to run in mm.
The rear antisquat block will fit and will benefit the truck in mm, makes the rear end feel more planted overall.
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When they tested the and made changes for the 2.0. Did they try different configurations? I.e. Stock/Mod, MM/RM, different track layouts.

In previous post it sounds like most or all of the testing was done at OCRC, or did they test on indoor/outdoor tracks?

I have ordered mine and the delivery date is still late March, any word on a more locked in date?

Last question, the kit looks pretty complete, but are there any recommended options? I.e. Alum HEX sets.
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Originally Posted by Mudcat981
Frank,

When they tested the and made changes for the 2.0. Did they try different configurations? I.e. Stock/Mod, MM/RM, different track layouts.

In previous post it sounds like most or all of the testing was done at OCRC, or did they test on indoor/outdoor tracks?

I have ordered mine and the delivery date is still late March, any word on a more locked in date?

Last question, the kit looks pretty complete, but are there any recommended options? I.e. Alum HEX sets.
1. I actually did quite a bit of testing at SDRC 1.0, which was actually more of a medium grip indoor track. I ran a ton of RM and a good amount of MM. Other drivers tested at tracks in Michigan at their local tracks as well. One of the testers races stock, so we did get some stock testing as well.

2. Not a firmer date at the moment.

3. I'd probably recommend the aluminum ball stud washer set (TLR6019) and maybe an aluminum idler, or aluminum rear camber block. Hexes are nice, but don't really help performance or durability.
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Originally Posted by Frank Root
1. I ran a ton of RM and a good amount of MM. Other drivers tested at tracks in Michigan at their local tracks as well. One of the testers races stock, so we did get some stock testing as well.
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will there be setup sheets for both RM/MM Stock/Mod?

Thanks for the answer. I am really excited about this ST!!! Can't wait.
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Originally Posted by Mudcat981
will there be setup sheets for both RM/MM Stock/Mod?

Thanks for the answer. I am really excited about this ST!!! Can't wait.
Generally the way you build it will be the starting setup in both configs. Except of course getting real TLR oil, not the stuff coming in the kits.
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Originally Posted by Frank Root

3. I'd probably recommend the aluminum ball stud washer set (TLR6019) and maybe an aluminum idler, or aluminum rear camber block. Hexes are nice, but don't really help performance or durability.
It seems there are some errors on the Horizon key features list then:
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Updated suspension geometry
22™ 2.0 caster blocks with 22T™ 2.0-specific spindles
Wider rear arms for easier direction changes
Gen II shocks with machined piston and x-ring seals
Bell crank steering system for smoother response at every speed
Hard-anodized 7075-T6 aluminum chassis
Updated ball differential with tungsten carbide balls and larger diff rings
TiCN shock shaft, inner hinge pins, and outer threaded hinge pins
Adjustable, hard-mount battery holder
Aluminum rear camber block
New, narrower rear hex with less wheel off-set
Aluminum ball stud washers throughout
Mid- and rear-motor mount parts included
Metric hardware
22T 2.0 body
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Originally Posted by Mudcat981
will there be setup sheets for both RM/MM Stock/Mod?

Thanks for the answer. I am really excited about this ST!!! Can't wait.
Setups really aren't much/any different between RM and MM. So far, I only like the front spring different between the two (blue MM, Green RM).

For stock, we'll get a setup once we get the trucks out there and get more setup input/feedback from racers.

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It seems there are some errors on the Horizon key features list then:
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Updated suspension geometry
22™ 2.0 caster blocks with 22T™ 2.0-specific spindles
Wider rear arms for easier direction changes
Gen II shocks with machined piston and x-ring seals
Bell crank steering system for smoother response at every speed
Hard-anodized 7075-T6 aluminum chassis
Updated ball differential with tungsten carbide balls and larger diff rings
TiCN shock shaft, inner hinge pins, and outer threaded hinge pins
Adjustable, hard-mount battery holder
Aluminum rear camber block
New, narrower rear hex with less wheel off-set
Aluminum ball stud washers throughout
Mid- and rear-motor mount parts included
Metric hardware
22T 2.0 body
There sure are...lol. Thanks for pointing those out. Our marketing team aren't quite the racers we are, and they get confused on these detail things sometimes. I'll work to get this updated shortly.

If you check out the overview page, all of this info is correct. Also, the gallery images will clearly show the kit with the parts as I have described.

Unfortunately, no way to keep the 22T 2.0 at the low MAP Price of $299.99 and include all of the options the 22 2.0 has at $349.99.... although I wish magic was possible
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Is an aluminum idler a necessary upgrade? If running in mid configuration would you run 2 aluminum idlers or just one next to the topshaft? Thanks!
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