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Old 12-18-2014, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Cpt.America View Post
I personally don't like bumps.

At my track, we run 1 through 8 in the A. If you qualified 9th, you're actually the B-Q. The problem with this setup, is that now everybody in the Bmain feels they have ONE LAST CHANCE to make into the A. I can't can't how many times the top one or two guys in the B main get completely hacked on purpose, so the guy that qualified 11 or 12 can actually get into the A.

B-mains are usually a hack-fest for a reason... and I think bumps are why. If you qualified 9th, you should be 9th on the starting grid for the show. You shoudn't be put in front of a pile of other guys that are just as fast as you, just not as consistent... which spells disaster as they all try and drive even more crazy, to make the A. It puts 9th and 10th at a distinct disadvantage if 11th and 12th tend to be a little pushy with the nose of their car.

On the FLIP side... I raced a big race a few years ago. I did NOT do well in my first qualifier. I got hacked, made a bobble, finished terrible. FAR worse than where I typically would have. My second qualifier, I put my car down on the track, and one of my front wheels was binding at lock... so I couldn't even run my second qualifier. Long story short, I started the mains in the E main maybe? I bumped to the D, then the C, then into the B.... finished somewhere in the middle. I just couldn't get my self up to the front of the pack to bump again.

So you need to ask yourself.. in THAT situation, is it fair I was given, what is in essence.. a THIRD qualifier by being allowed to bump through the entire stack of mains? The fact that I screwed up my driving in my first qualifier, and then screwed up the mechanics of my car for the second, should have sent me down to the bottom main for the day... but it didn't. The guy I out finished in the B main (whatever position that was), not only drove better in qual1, but also didn't screw his car up in qual2. I don't think I should have been able to race against him from 2 or 3 quals lower.

I'm so conflicted

I hate bumps.. You qualify you earn your spot in the main .. I've yet to be at any race where some lower main bump up guy all excited that he bumped . Knows hes faster (or thinks he is) peels everyone in his way to bump again..
Call it old school but the small ammount of gratification earned by running your qualifiers and doing good is what makes for better drivers.
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I can't disagree more. Running qualifiers on your own clock does not make you a better driver. Racing someone clean and close.. fighting for position.. finding ways to pass (clean) are what make you a better driver. If someone is peeling people to get to the front then they should be DQ'd. That is not a bump up issue but a personal attitude issue.
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Originally Posted by masher81 View Post
I can't disagree more. Running qualifiers on your own clock does not make you a better driver. Racing someone clean and close.. fighting for position.. finding ways to pass (clean) are what make you a better driver. If someone is peeling people to get to the front then they should be DQ'd. That is not a bump up issue but a personal attitude issue.
Ok my bad "peeled" might be to harsh of a word.. Maybe accidentally nudged.. With the lack of waiting. Is a better way to explain it.
Bumps make it hard to have clean mains . Too much focus on bump up then running your main.. You broke qualifying, you hit too much stuff, your equipment failed . All just excuses .. Like it was said above why qualify?
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Originally Posted by zippygraphix View Post
Ok my bad "peeled" might be to harsh of a word.. Maybe accidentally nudged.. With the lack of waiting. Is a better way to explain it.
Bumps make it hard to have clean mains . Too much focus on bump up then running your main.. You broke qualifying, you hit too much stuff, your equipment failed . All just excuses .. Like it was said above why qualify?
So if you take the bump ups out of the equation.. you are telling me people would drive differently? It's racing and people are going to try to win no matter what. Like I said this sounds like driving etiquette/personal attitude problem.

"Why qualify?"

Why run lower mains? How about if you don't make the A-Main you go home.
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Originally Posted by masher81 View Post
I personally was in the 10th spot in the A and B-Q was only .02 seconds behind me. With the talent that close I don't see how bumping someone from the lower mains hurts anything.
Hey, thems the breaks sometimes. Do they have bumps at the ROAR National Championships or IFMAR Worlds? Those B mains are full of pros.

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Why run lower mains? How about if you don't make the A-Main you go home.
This format existed without bump ups, why is it dependent on bumps now? I have no problem being "just" a B or C main winner. Sometimes after a really good race, I don't want to take the bump to get it handed to me in the A

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I got to watch Drake bump from like the H main all the way to the B at a practice race cause his plane was late and he never made a heat. Everyone was cheering him on but he broke in the B. Lol
Now this is a great bump story
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I have never been to a race without bumps, and I have never had a problem with it. I just thought it was how rc racing was done. Sometimes the top two bump, sometimes one, but the tracks always had at least one bump.

I have also only seen trophy's for the A Main.

With some tracks talking about motocross style starts more emphasis should be put on racing and less on qualifying. Anyone can go fast when there is no pressure, let's see how people deal with making passes and having people nipping at their heels constantly.
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Originally Posted by masher81 View Post
Why run lower mains? How about if you don't make the A-Main you go home.
So you know how you placed? Win the B, and you finished 11th.
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Originally Posted by masher81 View Post
Why run lower mains? How about if you don't make the A-Main you go home.
Well long answer short those that are driving in the B C D E mains want to race also and if you are a driver like myself that is a C main driver out 25 drivers it is important to have that last race. There is a reason that they have trophies for the lower mains it is so we can and will spend $$$$$ to get a little better and maybe place in our main yeah a c main trophy dont mean nothing in all reality nor does a novice class trophy but that is what keeps us going. My opinion is that bump ups add excitement to that round, and if you are starting 3rd or fourth in the b main there is always that chance to move up and have the great run which I think is needed.

BLAH BLAH blah ...... I will stop typing now as i cant make sense myself of what i am saying.

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BLAH BLAH blah ...... I will stop typing now as i cant make sense myself of what i am saying.

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I ran my first race on dirt last month and the track I went to did bump ups. Having not been able to practice it took me all the qualifiers to figure out my car so I ended up in the D main. I ended up bumping up through the lower mains and made it into the A. I finished 3rd after my tires went bald from running thrue the lower mains. I guess my point is without the bump ups I wouldn't have been able to reach my potential. I'm neither for or against it but thought I'd share my story.
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