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Old 04-21-2014, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by iThinman
sugar is $9/25 lbs. at Costco and my bald tires have more traction than any new tire i have run on a non-treated outdoor track.
I can get calcium for free
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One of the tracks I race on sugar their oval. They added a off-road last summer. Both are outdoor. They use a grass seed spreader, then water it in two days before a race. Then between the last qual and the mains do a cola sprites.

Don't know the water to cola ratio.

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You can do the same with calcium without the cola part.

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Our club has been forced to sugar as the council provided granite breaks up bad . Luckily one of our members works at coke and gets sugar by the wheely bin free of charge . We use a seed spreader then water in then let it bake , within a couple hours rock hard and ultra grip . On some sections like apexs and jumps I just throw it down with shovel spread and water rock hard and maintenance free for months , this is outdoor open to public track . We were really starting to struggle before this as the track was so rutted and loose the racers were not enjoying at all . Regarding tyre wear baldy's are ok as the grips there .
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here is a lap around our track after one of our first sugaring efforts .
another method we found very effective was to make a "slurry" out of the loose stuff off the line adding sugar in it and then screeting , dries hard and smooth .
we will be doing a resurface very soon , this time sugar will be applied from the start !!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ_oJiG2leI
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our local track uses magnesium, works well, grip like calcium without the corrosion. We don't use much so tires still last a long time
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Look into kitty litter... for real. Sugar is not the way you should ever go on a track. Forget about the tires & all the other issues racers will have.. think of the smell and bee's that come with it.
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Originally Posted by 8ight-e
Look into kitty litter... for real. Sugar is not the way you should ever go on a track. Forget about the tires & all the other issues racers will have.. think of the smell and bee's that come with it.
I've raced on 4 outdoor sugared tracks and neither of those were an issue.
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Originally Posted by RC*PHREAK
I've raced on 4 outdoor sugared tracks and neither of those were an issue.
Summer time or cold months? It is pretty normal for bee issues w/ sugared tracks.
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Originally Posted by 8ight-e
Summer time or cold months? It is pretty normal for bee issues w/ sugared tracks.
summer time.
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lol, my bee's still prefer the flowers over the track.
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Originally Posted by iThinman
lol, my bee's still prefer the flowers over the track.
maybe the bay area bees are snobs and would rather stick to all natural flowers rather than processed sugar because the two norcal sugared tracks and deltas two sugared tracks don't/didn't seem to attract them.
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Sugar is the greatest thing ever. All you wimps complaining about tires are misguided. When it warms up we run medium compound slicks with ultimate traction. Our track is clay and decomposed granite. We run sugared bluegroove 8-9 months of the year.

Its very simple to set the track up. Every two months we build a new track. We race it wet the first night to wear a groove into it. Then we blow and sweep it off very carefully. We take a regular garden spreader and drop the sugar on the track. Then we wet the track by misting it for a while. Last, we let it dry for a day or two. When its finally dry its unbelievable how hard it gets. If the temps get above 80 you can run baldies all the time....until you wear the tread to the foams. Honestly, you wouldn't think it works but man is the traction is incredible.

It does not cost $9.25 a pound ( I think I misread that anyway) or something ridiculous like that. I think a 50lb bag is $40 or so....I'll check. We use 2 initially and a month in we might touch the track up if needed. The trick to sugar is its so hard that you lay rubber down when you run on it just like a real track and after a few weeks you can see the groove laid down on the track. I would think that sugar works best on tracks already running blue groove. I'm not so sure it would work on pure clay unless it was mixed with something hard.
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lol 9.25 a pound. i said 9 bucks per 25 lb bag.
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Originally Posted by RC*PHREAK
maybe the bay area bees are snobs and would rather stick to all natural flowers rather than processed sugar because the two norcal sugared tracks and deltas two sugared tracks don't/didn't seem to attract them.
LMAO i've never had a problem at norcal or delta either... no bee's and no rust if i don't immediately clean my cars.

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We thought that ants would be a problem but they do not seem to like the refined sugar. Rust? That's a new one.
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