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Old 08-07-2005, 12:00 PM   #1
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Default Losi 4wd prototype + BJ4 prototype at Worlds

New Losi 4wd designed after the jrx-s, and a new 3x3 cell layout prototype for the BJ4, as well as a new body, and some new shots of the Yokomo prototype:

http://www.mini-zone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=864
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Good stuff. 4wd is going to be very cool this year!!

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I like the idea of that split center shaft on the bj. You could tweak it to make it work like a center diff on an 1/8 scale. Look at how the yok, bj and other cars are using 3x3 saddle packs like the xx-4, makes you realize that the xx-4 was 5+ years ahead of its time and was truly the best and probably is still the best 4wd available! The new prototype looks sweet. Some people have been critisizing it because the arms are short, but all the mass is in the center of the chassis. I know there is no other car that turns better and offers more steering than the jrxs. The same principals will aptly apply to this prototype. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in the a-main. Will it win, no, but it will be in the a-main.
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Has anyone noticed that the steering on the losi uses the C-hub design off the XXX-S, this moves the outer hinge pin a lot farther out than where it is located on the XXX-4 or XX-4. This means the distance from the inner hinge pin and outer hinge pin might not be much shorter than what is on the XXX-4, thus the arms on the front might not be much shorter. I know the rear arms have to be way shorter for they are using the same rear rims, unless they redesigned the rear hub to so that the spacer between the bearing and hub is very thin and the pivot is out as close to the wheel as possible. Which would mean the arms might not be much shorter than the short arm holes on the BK2 rear arms.
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More here:

http://www.automodelli.info/PUBLIC/ISI/Novita'/index.html
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For a translation go to http://www.freetranslation.com and click the web page translater for french to english. Also notice how they put flowers on the lane markers on the track.
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Reminds me of the HPI Pro 3 layout…

The body looks kind of like the Ace and Gray mobile Ewwww
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Well at least there is some discussion and pictures from the race here...

Always nice to see that the Orion "live coverage" is always about a week late
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new image and info pouring in from on the min-zone.com thread.

They've just put up an image of what the post claims to be a conversion kit for the BJ4. It'll convert it to the prototype 3x3 configuration.

Neato. Perhaps not so prototype after all?? lol Where's my wallet?!?!
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That Losi body sure is fugly! I like the hippy underside of it to

Anyone have pictures of the new Kyosho 2WD buggy?

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That Losi body sure is fugly! I like the hippy underside of it to

Anyone have pictures of the new Kyosho 2WD buggy?

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I saw some new shots of the Kyosko 2wd here:

http://teamorion.com/live/results-cars.asp?id=162
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That Losi body sure is fugly! I like the hippy underside of it to

Anyone have pictures of the new Kyosho 2WD buggy?

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Its basically a Kyosho Ultima with CF towers (?)

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I like the idea of that split center shaft on the bj. You could tweak it to make it work like a center diff on an 1/8 scale. Look at how the yok, bj and other cars are using 3x3 saddle packs like the xx-4, makes you realize that the xx-4 was 5+ years ahead of its time and was truly the best and probably is still the best 4wd available! The new prototype looks sweet. Some people have been critisizing it because the arms are short, but all the mass is in the center of the chassis. I know there is no other car that turns better and offers more steering than the jrxs. The same principals will aptly apply to this prototype. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in the a-main. Will it win, no, but it will be in the a-main.

o.s. power - Don't be so quick to annoint Losi with their "innovative" 4WD.... the XX-4. It's a great buggy but it's far from original. Yokomo had 4WD kits using 3x3 saddle packs and mid motor layouts since the 80's and early 90's. If any car brought this design back at this point its the 2005 Durango which Hara used to desimate the competition at the World warm-ups a few months ago. He simply dominated! The competition learned quick (particularly the guys at JConcepts) who amazingly designed a winning car with hardly any practice or real race time to trump everyone else! 2 out of the 3 podium finishes is incredible (thanks to the amazing driving of both Ryans)!

Kudos though must go to Gil Losi Jr. for keeping the class alive when interest started to really slow down a few years ago. Great to see things are now back on track and that this year's Worlds has given the 4WD Class a HUGE shot in the arm which it badly needed!
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your just saying that because you love associated.
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Seeing that Yok prototype makes me appreciate my CAT 3K a little more....
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