Minimum C rating for 1/8 buggy
#3
#4
Tech Apprentice
Seems like a bit on the low side. My SCTE would not like anything less than 45-50c. But Ive never ran 1/8 electro. Is it somthing in the higher voltage that dosn't require a high C rating?
#6
Tech Champion
They are hard on them physically though, make sure they well secured. Most use velcro between pack and tray to help hold them in place. Some padding to the front, wires to the back side (most hard impacts are from the front).
Last edited by Dave H; 02-09-2014 at 03:22 AM. Reason: Correction, been using 35C not 40C for a few years without issue
#7
keep in mind there is no standard measure of C ratings so it really depends on the batteries
in 6S I would say 25C is a good beginning, in 4S 35C.. there are current drops that can cause troubles to the esc with low C rating batts so rather be safe than sorry
in 6S I would say 25C is a good beginning, in 4S 35C.. there are current drops that can cause troubles to the esc with low C rating batts so rather be safe than sorry
#8
Tech Apprentice
C-Rating depends on the capacity of the battery! So a discussion about the C-Rating without calling out the capacity is worthless because it's not comparable.
Just do a little math:
Let's take a Ezrun 150. This ESC can do 150 amps. Which means the battery has to deliver 150 amps to fulfill the max of the ESC. Now take a 5000mAh lipo. With 20C, this battery only delivers a maximum of 100 amps. That means, either the ESC never delivers the power he could, or the lipo will fail after a short time.
Now take a 8000mAh lipo with 20C. This lipo can deliver 160 amps. Completely different situation with the same C-rate.
To make a long story short: I'm only taking lipos which can deliver the amps the ESC draws as a max + 50%. Take the EZrun: 150A + 50% = 225Amps. With a 5000mAh Lipo, that requires a 45C. With a 7000mAh lipo, something around 30C is enough.
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Sven
Just do a little math:
Let's take a Ezrun 150. This ESC can do 150 amps. Which means the battery has to deliver 150 amps to fulfill the max of the ESC. Now take a 5000mAh lipo. With 20C, this battery only delivers a maximum of 100 amps. That means, either the ESC never delivers the power he could, or the lipo will fail after a short time.
Now take a 8000mAh lipo with 20C. This lipo can deliver 160 amps. Completely different situation with the same C-rate.
To make a long story short: I'm only taking lipos which can deliver the amps the ESC draws as a max + 50%. Take the EZrun: 150A + 50% = 225Amps. With a 5000mAh Lipo, that requires a 45C. With a 7000mAh lipo, something around 30C is enough.
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Sven
#9
^ I'm with that guy.
#10
Tech Apprentice
C-Rating depends on the capacity of the battery! So a discussion about the C-Rating without calling out the capacity is worthless because it's not comparable.
Just do a little math:
Let's take a Ezrun 150. This ESC can do 150 amps. Which means the battery has to deliver 150 amps to fulfill the max of the ESC. Now take a 5000mAh lipo. With 20C, this battery only delivers a maximum of 100 amps. That means, either the ESC never delivers the power he could, or the lipo will fail after a short time.
Now take a 8000mAh lipo with 20C. This lipo can deliver 160 amps. Completely different situation with the same C-rate.
To make a long story short: I'm only taking lipos which can deliver the amps the ESC draws as a max + 50%. Take the EZrun: 150A + 50% = 225Amps. With a 5000mAh Lipo, that requires a 45C. With a 7000mAh lipo, something around 30C is enough.
Greetings
Sven
Just do a little math:
Let's take a Ezrun 150. This ESC can do 150 amps. Which means the battery has to deliver 150 amps to fulfill the max of the ESC. Now take a 5000mAh lipo. With 20C, this battery only delivers a maximum of 100 amps. That means, either the ESC never delivers the power he could, or the lipo will fail after a short time.
Now take a 8000mAh lipo with 20C. This lipo can deliver 160 amps. Completely different situation with the same C-rate.
To make a long story short: I'm only taking lipos which can deliver the amps the ESC draws as a max + 50%. Take the EZrun: 150A + 50% = 225Amps. With a 5000mAh Lipo, that requires a 45C. With a 7000mAh lipo, something around 30C is enough.
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Sven
#11
Motors never burst that high. 100-120A is typical, unless it's a Tenshock.
#12
Tech Apprentice
We should never assume that the lipos are *really* capable of delivering what they should deliver. That's why I add a security ratio of 50% on the so called C-rates.
5000mAh with 25C means 125Amps...with a 70 Amps ESC (just ignore the burst, that's just pure marketing ;-)) you should be fine.
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Sven
5000mAh with 25C means 125Amps...with a 70 Amps ESC (just ignore the burst, that's just pure marketing ;-)) you should be fine.
Greetings
Sven
#13
Tech Champion
C-Rating depends on the capacity of the battery! So a discussion about the C-Rating without calling out the capacity is worthless because it's not comparable.
Just do a little math:
Let's take a Ezrun 150. This ESC can do 150 amps. Which means the battery has to deliver 150 amps to fulfill the max of the ESC. Now take a 5000mAh lipo. With 20C, this battery only delivers a maximum of 100 amps. That means, either the ESC never delivers the power he could, or the lipo will fail after a short time.
Now take a 8000mAh lipo with 20C. This lipo can deliver 160 amps. Completely different situation with the same C-rate.
To make a long story short: I'm only taking lipos which can deliver the amps the ESC draws as a max + 50%. Take the EZrun: 150A + 50% = 225Amps. With a 5000mAh Lipo, that requires a 45C. With a 7000mAh lipo, something around 30C is enough.
Greetings
Sven
Just do a little math:
Let's take a Ezrun 150. This ESC can do 150 amps. Which means the battery has to deliver 150 amps to fulfill the max of the ESC. Now take a 5000mAh lipo. With 20C, this battery only delivers a maximum of 100 amps. That means, either the ESC never delivers the power he could, or the lipo will fail after a short time.
Now take a 8000mAh lipo with 20C. This lipo can deliver 160 amps. Completely different situation with the same C-rate.
To make a long story short: I'm only taking lipos which can deliver the amps the ESC draws as a max + 50%. Take the EZrun: 150A + 50% = 225Amps. With a 5000mAh Lipo, that requires a 45C. With a 7000mAh lipo, something around 30C is enough.
Greetings
Sven
#14
The amp rating of a speed control is not important beyond estimating how much you need to match the motor you want to run. The motor draws the power, not the speed control.
#15
Tech Apprentice
Yes, that's right up to the limit of the ESC. The motor will never draw more amps than the ESC is able to deliver (at least not for long ;-)).
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Sven
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Sven