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Old 01-29-2014, 10:32 AM
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Nice karts, but SS is softer than steel. It's a fact. I know lots of go fast kart guys who are using all Ti fasteners.
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Old 01-29-2014, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by C4PT4IN
Well upgrades it is then

There is already a complete stainless steel set out there for the buggy

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RC10B5-Buggy..._qi=RTM1562569
What advantage does that give?
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Old 01-29-2014, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Davidka
Weight is a band-aid for setup. Remember when guys would put 6oz under their lipo batteries? Dakotah Phend just posted that he only runs 7gm in his 22 MM, a car with a reputation for needing a lot of weight.

If lots of weight must be added then either the setup hasn't been worked out (which can understandably take a while) or the car has adjustment limitations (Link locations, available spring rates, etc) to reach the right setup.
It might be worth noting that more and more drivers are moving to a short servo in their c4.2, which is something like 20 grams less up front.
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Stainless steel is a softer metal than steel...even in it's strongest grade. Furthermore, the screws offered in M2, M3, M4 size (especially those in the price point for RC application) are of the lower grades of stainless. Great for rust prevention, but with hex heads you will only have a limited number of rebuilds before the hexes start stripping. Also they flex and can bend.

We've tested different grades of titanium, stainless steel, and steel grades thoroughly over the past year in R/C 1/8 offroad, 1/10 offroad, and 1/10 road course, so it's a subject near and dear to my heart.
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Originally Posted by xTotalghost
What advantage does that give?
nothing Your screws will be 'shiny' though, but that's about it!

Originally Posted by C.Borgia
It might be worth noting that more and more drivers are moving to a short servo in their c4.2, which is something like 20 grams less up front.
I can understand if people are worrying about stock class and saving weight in one place to put it where you want it somewhere else, but I like the extra 20 grams up front. And with how the plates on the chassis are designed it won't even give more room for the electronics so unless those 20 grams make a big difference, I don't see why. But I've never read too much into it either so that might be part of it
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Old 01-29-2014, 10:41 AM
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+1 Matt is the pimp master 9000. he buys a car and blings it out. If you see one of his cars for sale, just buy it. He buys the kit, put $100 in upgrades, races is 2-3 times then sells it at a bargain. you know its true Matt....lol
I do the neccessary upgrades...which for this car will start out as titanium turnbuckles. My cars are always clean though...so that makes them look better. And if anyone is looking for a super clean 22 2.0 let me know .
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Originally Posted by Matt Trimmings
I do the neccessary upgrades...which for this car will start out as titanium turnbuckles. My cars are always clean though...so that makes them look better. And if anyone is looking for a super clean 22 2.0 let me know .
Ya don't say...
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Originally Posted by C4PT4IN
I can understand if people are worrying about stock class and saving weight in one place to put it where you want it somewhere else, but I like the extra 20 grams up front. And with how the plates on the chassis are designed it won't even give more room for the electronics so unless those 20 grams make a big difference, I don't see why. But I've never read too much into it either so that might be part of it
You are right that it will not give more room in either of the b5's. I only mean to point out that it is worth trying pulling weight instead of adding weight, as davidka has tried to point out the problems of simply piling on weight. In short, The c4.2 seems to me to be more forgiving when coming on power with less weight up front. I'm wondering if we have to reconsider how weight transfer works on mm cars and not think only in terms of rm weight transfer.
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Originally Posted by Tyler Keel
Ya don't say...
Here we go.....
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Shorty servos are often used on open chassis for space. The b5 is not open. The servo area is closed off. IMO, the full size servos are more durable and have better speed and torque specs. But in some cars, you need to run a shorty servo or it just does not work.
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Originally Posted by C.Borgia
You are right that it will not give more room in either of the b5's. I only mean to point out that it is worth trying pulling weight instead of adding weight, as davidka has tried to point out the problems of simply piling on weight. In short, The c4.2 seems to me to be more forgiving when coming on power with less weight up front. I'm wondering if we have to reconsider how weight transfer works on mm cars and not think only in terms of rm weight transfer.
yeah, its not just weight, its also weight transfer. how the chassis uses that weight on/off power or in a corner, or powering in a straight line. The is kinda the point of MM. The shifting of weight forward. What bother me is shifting the weight forward, then strapping a 50gram weight on the rear of the car, 30 grams on the sides and using a brass from toe plate. I am hoping the AE MM is designed with the right weigh balance out of the box. Or at least very close. Adding a couple 1/4oz weights is fine. These cars tossing on $100 in brass to function, dont seem properly designed for MM. The xfactory is very light in MM and appears to gave great traction. Maybe, too much traction in the rear. So it can be done and I hope AE gets it right.
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Originally Posted by C.Borgia
You are right that it will not give more room in either of the b5's. I only mean to point out that it is worth trying pulling weight instead of adding weight, as davidka has tried to point out the problems of simply piling on weight. In short, The c4.2 seems to me to be more forgiving when coming on power with less weight up front. I'm wondering if we have to reconsider how weight transfer works on mm cars and not think only in terms of rm weight transfer.
Good point I've never run a MM car so my input on this is all just speculation
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Pure speculation, but I think this weight adding will not be the trend as we figure these cars out. I will note, however, that ae has plastic, aluminum, and brass pivots for the b5m.





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Originally Posted by speedmeister
I just got my B5 from my local hobby shop. Hopefully can run it this weekend
Let us know more info when you can and maybe some build pics?
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hey Matt. Pimp out your B5, then after a month or so when you sell it, PM me first
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