deftones.jt@gma

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Spent alot of timing searching and coming up with multiple answers and need some advice before tomorrow. I just converted both of my buggies to MM. Went out and practiced last night and these were horrible handling. I used the flat arms with rear tower and rear b5r arms. My setup is basically to the book minus the arm conversions. Only other thing i can think of is i used 3+2 on the back hinge mount. Im running on outdoor dusty large 1/8 scale track. Big technical parts with multiple turns!! Can be very loose!! Running with calibers on rear or goose bumps or dd's!! Ribs on front!!! My problem is the rear is so loose!!! No grip at all!! Both buggies just will not hook!!! I need some help before racing tomorrow.... Thanks wildcat 1971 for ur input also!!

rc23

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i know this is probably not the answer you want to hear, but tracks where Calibers are the tire of choice are typically not midmotor tracks.

Mizchief

Yea I wasn't trying to argue with you, just didn't know if they changed up the material or something for the hard stuff. I didn't see the same thing mentioned on AE's site, maybe some just some color Amain added. I suppose the results from the track are the real truth.

racer1812

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Some MM diehards should be able to help. I can't because I wouldn't run a MM in those conditions. But that's just me.

Cpt.America

iTrader: (52)

Dusty + Technical = RM track. Not that you wouldn't be able to get a MM car to work... even if you could, I doubt your laptimes would be as low as with a RM car on a track like that.

deftones.jt@gma

iTrader: (26)

Ran better laps in a MM. Problem is my buddy sold it so i was unable to copy his setup. He did not build it either so he has no idea what was done to it besides the b5r arms. His was glued to the track. When i drove it, it was almost like cheating!!

racer1812

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I didn't take it that you were But my original response was to the comment "hard parts = easy to break" Which is likely true and I have doubts about any claims of them being more durable, other than possibly wear. Again risk vs. reward on a tuning part. And if a persons driving skills leave them worrying about braking parts can they notice the changes that come with the hard parts to begin with.

Risk, you might break more parts. Reward, you may see improved handling..

the incubus

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Excellent Thanks. I think every driver who can fit one in their vehicles should run it and tell ROAR to stick it already. It's an excellent option for those whom can use it instead of saddle packs and there are already 2 cars that were designed with the intent of running them. ROAR really needs to step up their game.

Cpt.America

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Certainly is possible! But typically speaking, on a super loose / low traction track, better lap times will be had with RM.

If your traction is literally 180 degrees different, then you most likely a) have a tire issue (not broken in? put on backwards?), or b) something binding causing a severe break in traction.

hcopp

I was going to ask - what is the proper method for "breaking in" tires?

xrayracer1

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Go be an ass somewhere else.....

Mizchief

Practice laps!

After a few laps you should be able to see one side of the tread rounded off a bit, then can make sure to put them back on the same way to keep the broken in feel, then can flip around if you want the fresh edge again.

racer1812

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If you've been following the whole "ball cup" issue at all you would have understood his sarcasm and laughed it off. Relax, I doubt he was trying to be a donkey.

Cpt.America

iTrader: (52)

As you run your tires in a certain direction, you begin to wear off the leading corner edge of the "pin" of the tire. As that "face" starts to grow, you start gaining traction. If you swap your rear tires Left to Right, you are now driving on the backside of the pin, where it isn't broken in yet. In offroad racing, make sure you never swap/rotate your drive tires. Always mark one "R", and one "L" and run them that way till the tires are no good.

On the same coin, I always rotate my fronts.

xrayracer1

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I haven't seen all the posts relating to the ball cup issue, but I've seen a few and the tips for fixing the issue. I wasn't trying to start a verbal fight or anything, I just have no time for sarcasm that's all.